Smaller letters in save data description that is unreadable in 1x resolution

[Panderner]

These are small letters in save data description for some games that is unreadable in 1x resolution.

For example Star Wars: The Force Unleashed:

[unknownbrackets]

Are you using force nearest texture filtering? It should look better if you use Auto. Or maybe it's a post shader?

-[Unknown]

[Panderner]

Are you using force nearest texture filtering? It should look better if you use Auto. Or maybe it's a post shader?

-[Unknown]

And here's a screenshot for comparison of texture filtering

Linear:

Nearest:

I don't use post shaders at all.

[Panderner]

When I upscale the resolution the small letters are readable.

[UbiSergei]

Canvas Can't Usee Four Dimensions..

[unknownbrackets]

Does it look better now?

-[Unknown]

[Panderner]

It needs resize the bottom description to be readable

[unknownbrackets]

Not sure. Here's how it looks for me:

Not amazing but readable. It's not clear to me why it's so blurry and grayed out on your screenshot. Hmm, maybe you just have an uneven stretch I guess?

Higher window scale for reference:

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[Panderner]

I'm using a android phone @unknownbrackets.

[unknownbrackets]

Android isn't really much different:

At most we could just truncate more, but this wasn't really very readable on a PSP either...

-[Unknown]

[hrydgard]

just render at 2x... :)

[Panderner]

This is how it looks like in real PSP

[anr2me]

Based on PSPSaveDialog::DisplaySaveDataInfo1() the textStyle use for the Details supposed to be the same with the Date Time, how did it became so small like that? Was it because the detail's text too long?

Looks like the detail's text is scaled down from 0.5 to 0.237931028 to fit maxLines where maxLines = 9 (on 2x Window).

		// Check if we need to scale the text down to fit better.
		PPGeStyle adjustedStyle = style;
		if (wrapHeight != 0.0f && actualHeight > wrapHeight) {
			// Cheap way to get the line height.
			float oneLine, twoLines;
			textDrawer->MeasureString("|", 1, &actualWidth, &oneLine);
			textDrawer->MeasureStringRect("|\n|", 3, Bounds(0, 0, 480, 272), &actualWidth, &twoLines);

			float lineHeight = twoLines - oneLine;
			if (actualHeight > wrapHeight * maxScaleDown) {
				float maxLines = floor(wrapHeight * maxScaleDown / lineHeight);
				actualHeight = (maxLines + 1) * lineHeight;
				// Add an ellipsis if it's just too long to be readable.
				// On a PSP, it does this without scaling it down.
				s = StripTrailingWhite(CropLinesToCount(s, (int)maxLines)) + "\n...";
			}

			adjustedStyle.scale *= wrapHeight / actualHeight;
		}

[unknownbrackets]

Okay, I had misremembered that a real PSP scaled down the text. It just hides it.

We can remove the scale down, but at a certain point - why? We could also remove fast forward or the ability to render at higher resolutions at all. It's equally a bug that we incorrectly have such features that don't exist on a real PSP too.

So the problem you're reporting here is that the text is too small. You would rather it's not shown at all. Is that right?

-[Unknown]

[anr2me]

I think he just want the text to be readable without upscaling since upscaling can be "expensive" on low-end devices.

So may be we can increase the scale a little bit?

Changing float maxScaleDown = zoom == 1 ? 1.3f : 2.0f; to float maxScaleDown = zoom == 1 ? 1.1f : 2.0f; or 1.2f : 2.0f seems to have better readability on 1x Window or 1x PSP rendering resolution when stretched to fullscreen. (1xPSP probably only affects people who wanted to squishes as much of performance as possible LOL)

1.3f:

1.2f:

1.1f:

[unknownbrackets]

Well, I think that what you're seeing and I'm seeing is ugly, but readable. The screenshot in #13958 (comment) is dimmer and even less readable (although arguably still readable.) I still can't reproduce that, I guess it must be display stretch settings.

I actually often use 1x. I hate the lines and things, and am not nearly as bothered by lower resolution as most. Of course, I prefer higher resolution when it looks strictly better and doesn't have artifacts.

See #11711. The reasons I did the scale down were:

1. Our font has different metrics so you might actually see less if we were super naive about it.
2. At higher resolutions our font looks much better, so switching to lower-quality PGF bitmap fonts to get the metrics is a painful sacrifice for very tiny gain.
3. Also I think our font looks better even at lower resolutions. But that's my personal biased opinion, I like Roboto.
4. The text is there, so as I said before: "I think it's clear that the intent in this case was to expose all the levels to the user and that it doesn't is probably just a shortcoming in the UI." It is not my belief that we should strive to emulate every shortcoming and every flaw in PSP firmware, if it has no impact on game compatibility.

Another example where I'm glad we willfully break from original firmware behavior: normally you have to cancel the save dialog after saving, you can't just mash X. It annoyed me on real PSPs every single time. I'm so glad we intentionally don't replicate that bad UX.

-[Unknown]

[unknownbrackets]

Personally, I think this is resolved now and we haven't gotten any further complaints. I realize we could truncate the text, but I noted my argument against that above.

Any objections to closing this? Most people will use 2x where it looks nicer anyway.

-[Unknown]

[Panderner]

But some games had graphical issues when the upscaled higher than 1x resolution.

For the example: as I mentioned #3332 & #3871 the lines are drawn incorrectly when the upscaled and the FMVs too (#13697)

[anr2me]

May be using compat.ini or option to let the Details to be rendered with the same size to Date Time (similar to what PSP did)? which may ended truncated.

[unknownbrackets]

I don't think that makes sense.

In games that already use a small amount of text, the text is the same size it is on the PSP. There's nothing for compat.ini to do.

In games where the developer put effort into generating text that wasn't visible on the PSP, it's currently making the text a bit smaller to show all the text. As per my argument above, I think it's better to do this. You're suggesting we find each of these games one by one (why?) and force them to hide the text? If you disagree with my argument above, you should explain that. There's no need to do it one by one for each game.

Again, I also play games at 1x PSP and for me it does seem to be readable, although with stretching sometimes less so. I can see the argument to make it exactly like the PSP, but that would seem more like an option if anything not a compat.ini value.

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[Panderner]

Even the resolution is upscaled Darkstalkers still uses 1x resolution due to ForceSoftwareRenderer for this game is enabled by compat.ini

[hrydgard]

That's a bit of an edge case, yes. But do you have a lot of issues with too small text in that game?

[Panderner]

That's a bit of an edge case, yes. But do you have a lot of issues with too small text in that game?

Unfortunately there is only 1 slot for this game per save for progress and tower mode.

[hrydgard]

Yeah, so not an issue in practice.