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Remove Disable Slower Effects In Graphics Settings Not Helping Anymore Tried and Tested Using Latest Build #12827

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ghost opened this issue Apr 16, 2020 · 27 comments
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ghost commented Apr 16, 2020

Related to #8171 kindly update that issue? 😅

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LunaMoo commented Apr 16, 2020

Disable slower effects is not an universal speedhack, it works only on some games that use very specific heavy effects. It should always work although some of it's cases might be optimized on Vulkan backend. While it would be nice to remove it, due to low end potatoes PPSSPP runs on, it has to stay as it's still way safer than some other options people abuse for low end devices.

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ghost commented Apr 16, 2020

@LunaMoo in the previous version of ppsspp disable slower effects speedup the games like, Brave Stories, 3RD Birthday, Ghost Rider and Hellboy The Science.
But now enabling that option has nothing changed sometimes give graphics glitches so better to remove that option.

@unknownbrackets
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This is really a duplicate of #11610 which is possibly even a duplicate of #8171.

#11777 is when we altered the setting to disable slightly less effects.

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@Panderner
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Do not turn on disable slow effects for some games:
The Simpsons Game Will corrupt the graphics
Sonic games will result brighter bloom

@Panderner
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Some games like Call of Duty, Indiana Jones needs to turn on disable slow effects to fix graphical problem for Mali GPUs see: #11598 and #11573

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ghost commented Apr 16, 2020

Some games like Call of Duty, Indiana Jones needs to turn on disable slow effects to fix graphical problem for Mali GPUs see: #11598 and #11573

Disable Slower Effects is not the proper fixed for those games

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This is why The Simpsons Game needs to turn off Disable slower effects.

Disable slower effects off:
Screenshot_2020-04-16-15-46-01-76_2f85358b2198d26f8aca533d68bee793
Disable slower effects on:
Screenshot_2020-04-16-15-46-09-96_2f85358b2198d26f8aca533d68bee793

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ghost commented Apr 16, 2020

This is why The Simpsons Game needs to turn off Disable slower effects.

Disable slower effects off:
Screenshot_2020-04-16-15-46-01-76_2f85358b2198d26f8aca533d68bee793
Disable slower effects on:
Screenshot_2020-04-16-15-46-09-96_2f85358b2198d26f8aca533d68bee793

That's why disable slower effects is needed to remove 🤷

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ghost commented Apr 16, 2020

PPSSPP v1.7.5 is the last version that "Disable Slower Effects" can give speedup for some games when option is enable.

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LunaMoo commented Apr 16, 2020

No. You're simply running Vulkan backend AND trying on effect which is optimized there. Still 20% is a lot for some devices basically a difference between playable and not.

But then when you switch to OGL which most people will use on their old potatoes you will see a difference between a single digit fps and fully playable game which in some cases like Death Jr. 2 game will not even cause any missing graphics. I don't have any benefit from that setting running on PC way more powerful than any phone will have for the next 10 years or more, but this setting for many poor people is a a difference between experience of playing a game and walking into dog s....

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ghost commented Apr 16, 2020

No. You're simply running Vulkan backend AND trying on effect which is optimized there. Still 20% is a lot for some devices basically a difference between playable and not.

But then when you switch to OGL which most people will use on their old potatoes you will see a difference between a single digit fps and fully playable game which in some cases like Death Jr. 2 game will not even cause any missing graphics. I don't have any benefit from that setting running on PC way more powerful than any phone will have for the next 10 years or more, but this setting for many poor people is a a difference between experience of playing a game and walking into dog s....

I tested Death JR 2 in Mali-T270 GPU OGL 3.1 and Adreno 505 GPU OGL 3.1 disable slower effects has no effects in the latest git build of ppsspp.

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LunaMoo commented Apr 16, 2020

Then maybe your devices can't emulate that effect to begin with. The difference on a PC which CAN emulate the effect used in that game, running on 32x PSP res for the sake of seeing a difference is between 2 and 30 fps, in OGL at least, in Vulkan it's also around 20% max which would still be a lot on a crappy device.

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ghost commented Apr 17, 2020

Lamentable, prefieren a una persona (por llamarlo de alguna forma) que hable mal. Y no es la primera vez que ese individuo suelta alguna perla.

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Um @hrydgard Did you remove @Drasikk's comment above?

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ghost commented Apr 17, 2020

@Panderner Yes, see that they want the best who speaks badly. It leaves a lot to be desired, this kind of behaviors of young children.

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ghost commented Apr 17, 2020

Lamentable, prefieren a una persona (por llamarlo de alguna forma) que hable mal. Y no es la primera vez que ese individuo suelta alguna perla.

Can't understand your language 😅

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This type of stuff is not relevant here, I have no idea what you are arguing about .

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Lamentable, prefieren a una persona (por llamarlo de alguna forma) que hable mal. Y no es la primera vez que ese individuo suelta alguna perla.

@Drasikk speak English not Spanish. It translates to:
Unfortunately, they prefer a person (to call it something) who speaks badly. And it is not the first time that this individual drops a pearl.

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hrydgard commented Apr 17, 2020

I really don't understand what or who he's talking about, in either language.

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ghost commented Apr 17, 2020

Lamentable, prefieren a una persona (por llamarlo de alguna forma) que hable mal. Y no es la primera vez que ese individuo suelta alguna perla.

Can't understand your language

Yo tampoco puedo entender tu lenguaje. 🤔

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ghost commented Apr 17, 2020

Lamentable, prefieren a una persona (por llamarlo de alguna forma) que hable mal. Y no es la primera vez que ese individuo suelta alguna perla.

@Drasikk speak English not Spanish. It translates to:
Unfortunately, they prefer a person (to call it something) who speaks badly. And it is not the first time that this individual drops a pearl.

No se donde pone que no se pueda hablar en español, siendo una de los idiomas más importantes y hablados del planeta.

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ghost commented Apr 17, 2020

Lamentable, prefieren a una persona (por llamarlo de alguna forma) que hable mal. Y no es la primera vez que ese individuo suelta alguna perla.

@Drasikk speak English not Spanish. It translates to:
Unfortunately, they prefer a person (to call it something) who speaks badly. And it is not the first time that this individual drops a pearl.

No se donde pone que no se pueda hablar en español, siendo una de los idiomas más importantes y hablados del planeta.

Speak English so everyone can understand you 🤦

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ghost commented Apr 17, 2020

I really don't understand what or who he's talking about, in either language.

Yo tampoco lo entiendo, tener a un colaborador diciendo esas barbaridades.

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Entiendo que no te gustan los problemas de velocidad. No hablar un idioma común no ayuda. Algunas personas están estresadas en este momento. Trabajemos juntos para mejorar PPSSPP.

I understand you don't like the speed problems. Not speaking a common language doesn't help. Some people are stressed right now. Let's work together to make PPSSPP better.

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ghost commented Apr 19, 2020

disable slower effects has nothing to do in the brightness error of this #12044

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ghost commented May 7, 2020

Closing this...

@ghost ghost closed this as completed May 7, 2020
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ghost commented Sep 14, 2022

This was fix by #15948

@hrydgard hrydgard added this to the v1.14.0 milestone Sep 14, 2022
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