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Define Web IDL Modules #675
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A thing I'm missing here is infrastructure around scoping. module X {
interface Y { ... };
};
interface Y { ... }; Is that okay? If not, what forbids it? If it is, what forbids the second interface declaration from being |
I was hoping that this would be OK to have two different interfaces named
If you think full expressiveness here is important, I could update this patch to do that. |
That all sounds good to me, modulo what comes out of #676 but that can be addressed at that point and isn't needed for v1. (I'm not entirely sure what needs changing to clarify scope unfortunately.) |
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Some initial thoughts, mostly editorial, below.
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@littledan Is there a summary somewhere of what the actual syntax this PR implements is? |
@bzbarsky Added an example in the PR description; is this the level of detail you're looking for? |
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Very nice. Overall LGTM, although maybe we should hold off on merging until we get synthetic module records accepted.
Thinking about the comments on ambiguity from @domenic and @annevk a bit more, I'm thinking that it could be best to switch to a model where you declare a module with an identifier and then refer to interfaces declared within it as The only thing I can see potentially missing is that you can't use It'll be a little while until I have a chance to get back to this; if @Ms2ger or someone else is interested in picking this up, that'd be welcome, or otherwise I will a bit later. |
This is ready for review, btw. |
A couple additional suggestions which @domenic and I recently discussed offline. I think any of these could be follow-ons and don't need to block the PR.
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Overall LGTM. I think we should add an "under construction" signage, file issues for the other follow-ups @littledan mentioned, and merge. Really nice work.
We can then iterate on those issues and also attempt to use modules in the KV storage spec. I don't think we'll want to merge into KV storage quite yet because of the remaining issues in WICG/kv-storage#46, but just writing the spec patch would give us a good idea of how these things would be used. For example it'd let us see "set a module attribute" in action.
<div algorithm> | ||
[=Interfaces=] and [=partial interfaces=] have a | ||
<dfn for="interface,partial interface">scoped identifier</dfn>, | ||
which uniquely identifies an [=interface=]. |
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Why is this a separate concept from qualfiied name? The difference seems to be that for modules we allow two same-named interfaces in different modules, but we don't allow two same-named interfaces in [LegacyNamespace]. Is that mismatch desirable?
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Changing how LegacyNamespace works in this PR seems out of scope to me. Note that, if I connected everything correctly, using the qualified name would mean you'd need changes like this to specifications that use it:
namespace WebAssembly {
- Promise<Module> compile(BufferSource bytes);
+ Promise<WebAssembly.Module> compile(BufferSource bytes);
};
Maybe we want that, but let's discuss that separately.
Just want to check that this is not blocked on me at this point. I'm excited to see this land, but I also appreciate how every new commit from @Ms2ger corrects more subtle issues that I totally missed, so I'm happy to wait it out. |
Things that would be nice to see clarified:
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Wait until someone uses the feature, and then write tests. Possibly https://tc39.github.io/proposal-temporal/ or https://wicg.github.io/kv-storage/ might be the first.
I don't have a clue. Maybe @saschanaz has thoughts on webidl.js. |
I think I'm happy to squash and land this. (At least until the next time I read through the diff.) I'll do that some time next week, if I hear no objections. |
Will happily start to add support when this PR merges. |
I'm a little worried about landing something this big without a downstream user PR and browser implementation commitments. We kinda stopped adding "speculative" things a while ago. And while this isn't completely speculative, it still seems good to work it out end-to-end, no? |
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<pre class="grammar" id="prod-PartialModule"> | ||
PartialModule : | ||
"module" identifier "{" ModuleMembers "}" ";" |
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Why do we have two exactly same grammars Module
and PartialModule
?
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To distinguish the two cases in the definition of "module declaration" and "partial module declaration". There may be a better way to do this.
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I think the following two sentences are ambiguous become the grammars are same:
A module declaration is a definition matching the Module nonterminal symbol.A partial module declaration is a definition matching the PartialModule nonterminal symbol.
Ah okay, actually not, sorry.
I'd be happy to see this land, but could you make a big "work in progress within the draft, do not use yet" at the top? @domenic and I have been talking about whether interfaces should switch into some "new defaults" when inside of a module, which would bring sizable semantics changes. |
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+1
cc @mattijs |
@annevk, are you OK with landing this? Chrome is interested in implementing, and my understanding is that folks like @lukewagner and @tschneidereit were also interested. (@Ms2ger, there are some merge conflicts.) |
Is there a downstream PR? What about the sizeable semantic changes @littledan mentioned? |
I'm unsure what you mean by "downstream"? We indeed might make sizable semantics changes before shipping; those are captured in e.g. #718 and #719. But it's good to make incremental progress, so that specs can use modules at all, before we contemplate exactly what might change by default inside modules. |
I meant a PR for a spec that wants to use this as-is. |
Ah, I'll work on that today. |
For posterity, @Ms2ger notes that he's already started in https://github.com/WICG/kv-storage/compare/master...Ms2ger:idl?expand=1, and in fact the modules part is done there. (It appears that parts that are unfinished are related to #720.) |
I think we should be able to land this after rebasing. WICG/kv-storage#68 is what wants to use this. |
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This PR defines the ability in WebIDL to define JavaScript built-in modules. These semantics set the module map, which makes sense in the context of the import maps draft specification https://wicg.github.io/import-maps/
@annevk ping on whether you're OK to land this. I am going to land WICG/kv-storage#68 today with reference to this pull request, but basing it on the actual IDL spec would be even better. |
For clarity, while Mozilla is supportive of KV Storage, it's still a little unclear what is happening with Builtin Modules (see mozilla/standards-positions#147) which means I'm not comfortable moving forward with this. |
This PR defines the ability in WebIDL to define JavaScript built-in modules.
Modules are defined with a new
module
declaration, which can containregular operations, readonly attributes, and interfaces. For example:
This PR is based on the proposed infrastructure at
tc39/proposal-built-in-modules#44
These semantics set the module map, which makes sense in the context of
the import maps draft specification
https://wicg.github.io/import-maps/
Closes #592
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