Expose [BPM],sync_lock_algorithm option in deck preferences. #11828

daschuer · 2023-08-14T01:00:47Z

Unfortunately this is still required to have a reliable transition with non const beat-grids like in 2.3.

This has been a hidden preferences option introduced here: #3698 as a workaround until unstable / dynamic outro tempos have been fixed, which never happens.
Details have been discussed here: https://mixxx.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/109171-development/topic/sync.20lock.20with.20variable.20tempo.20tracks

With the later improvements we have already introduced and #11831 applied this works now very good for me. You can pick "Follow implicit leader" if you have only a few tracks with non const beat grids, or "Use steady Tempo" if all are non const. This way are safe from messed up transitions. Both modes allow to change that behaviour on the fly by making the on of the tracks or the internal clock the explicit leader.

The tooltips are:

Follow implicit leader's tempo:
Apply tempo changes from a soft leading track (normally the previous track in a transition) to the follower tracks. After the transition, the follower track will continue with the previous leader's very last tempo. Changes from explicit selected leaders are always applied.

Use steady Tempo:
The tempo of a previous soft leader track at the beginning of the transition is kept steady. After the transition, the follower track will maintain this original tempo. This technique serves as a workaround to avoid dynamic tempo changes, as seen in rubato-style tracks, during the outro. For instance it prevents the follower track from continuing with a slowed-down tempo of the soft leader. This corresponds to the behavior before Mixxx 2.4. Changes from explicit selected leaders are always applied.

Unfortunately this is still required to have a reliable transition with non const beat-grids like in 2.3.

Holzhaus · 2023-08-14T19:00:58Z

src/engine/sync/enginesync.h

+    // and editing code is committed and we no longer need the lock bpm fallback option.
+    enum SyncLockAlgorithm {
+        // New behavior, which should work if beatgrids are reliable.
+        PREFER_SOFT_LEADER,


I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but isn't it irrelevant if the leader is implicit/soft or explicit?

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PREFER_SOFT_LEADER,

PREFER_LEADER,

The explicit leader (full crown symbol) is always preferred. This feature is about the automatically selected soft leader.
"Shall the follower follow a dynamic tempo or should both follow a steady tempo?"

Currently this preferences option is designed to be extensible for more features that will come on the table once we have rhythm detection implemented.
Does it make sense to decouple it?

daschuer · 2023-08-15T05:40:41Z

Initial description and screenshot updated.

ronso0

just some twekas. Still not a native speaker, but it feels a bit better.

src/preferences/dialog/dlgprefdeckdlg.ui

ronso0 · 2023-08-21T21:15:00Z

Sure it's okay to have explanatory tooltips for now, but all that info deserves its own chapter in the manual. We could link to that like we do for the Cue modes.

A few more bits should be clarified IMHO, for example how does Mixxx know when a transition starts? Crossfader, channel fader, effective ratio in the main mix, or some combination?

Co-authored-by: ronso0 <[email protected]>

src/engine/sync/enginesync.h

Swiftb0y · 2023-09-10T11:04:26Z

src/preferences/dialog/dlgprefdeck.cpp

+    const EngineSync::SyncLockAlgorithm syncLockAlgorithm =
+            static_cast<EngineSync::SyncLockAlgorithm>(m_pConfig->getValue<int>(
+                    ConfigKey(BPM_CONFIG_GROUP, SYNC_LOCK_ALGORITHM_CONFIG_KEY),
+                    EngineSync::SyncLockAlgorithm::PREFER_SOFT_LEADER));


Seeing this snippet while starting the review a couple weeks ago was the entire reason for why I implemented #11883 😅
Please update this and the snippet below when merging to main.

daschuer · 2023-10-10T21:52:58Z

The manual can be found here: mixxxdj/manual#589

ronso0

LGTM, just a proposal for the tooltip.

src/skin/legacy/tooltips.cpp

Co-authored-by: ronso0 <[email protected]>

ronso0 · 2023-10-16T21:34:10Z

@Holzhaus @Swiftb0y do you have any remarks?

Swiftb0y

previous comments still apply as well, lgtm otherwise.

src/skin/legacy/tooltips.cpp

daschuer · 2023-11-11T19:10:08Z

This is ready for merge.

ronso0

LGTM, thank you!

ronso0 · 2023-11-13T09:41:11Z

src/defs_urls.h

@@ -53,6 +53,8 @@
    MIXXX_MANUAL_URL "/chapters/preferences.html#library"
 #define MIXXX_MANUAL_CUE_MODES_URL \
    MIXXX_MANUAL_URL "/chapters/user_interface.html#using-cue-modes"
+#define MIXXX_MANUAL_SYNC_MODES_URL \
+    MIXXX_MANUAL_URL "/chapters/user_interface.html#sync-and-rate-controls"


Now that ___ has been merged, we should link to https://manual.mixxx.org/2.4/chapters/djing_with_mixxx#sync-lock-with-dynamic-tempo

Btw, when I click the (?) link I end up at https://manual.mixxx.org/2.4/chapters/user_interface.html#sync-and-rate-controls + X * PageDown (at the effects section)

ronso0 · 2023-11-16T09:06:37Z

Thank you!

Expose [BPM],sync_lock_algorithm option in deck preferences.

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Unfortunately this is still required to have a reliable transition with non const beat-grids like in 2.3.

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Use Term Soft Leader to match other parts in the code

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Pitch of deck 1 is changing when skipping on paused deck 2 #11788

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