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jack audio on Mac 11.15 Catalina #509
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macOS is not supported at this point, we are focusing on GNU/Linux systems among other things. |
#144 seems to point to a beta for High Sierra... I might try my luck on that.. I cannot use Linux for Ableton Live based machines unfortunately, but thank you for the quick reply! |
Jack still runs on Catalina, people have reported, it's just the "jack pilot" program that won't start since it's 32 bit. Try to use qjackctl instead, or just start jackd manually from the command line. |
it'd been so long since I'd had some time to use it, so I will have to give a try again with just qjackctl and see where I get stuck without JackPilot As I kind of recall it helped visualize the routing of the signals.. |
Hello, please support for 64-bit jackpilot & JACK-insert.vst 64-bit. This was translated from Spanish to English with google translator. |
Sorry but I think it well never happen... The JackOSX code I wrote with J.Petrantoni back in 2004 is somewhat dead. An since @falkTX the new JACK maintener considers the JACK2 code base "ugly" and that some JACK developers had communication problems... ((-; (see https://media.ccc.de/v/sonoj2019-1902-jack-past-present-future) then motivation is lacking.. to ever, ever work on that stuff anymore. Life is too short... |
Any solution to send traktor virtual cable to ableton? that is in sync and without cracks |
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 9:51 AM Stéphane Letz ***@***.***> wrote:
Sorry But I think it well never happen... The JackOSX code I wrote with
J.Petrantoni back in 2004 is somewhat dead.
An since @falkTX <https://github.com/falkTX> the new JACK maintener
considers the JACK2 code base "ugly" and that some JACK developers had
communication problems... ((-; (see
https://media.ccc.de/v/sonoj2019-1902-jack-past-present-future) then
motivation is lacking.. to ever, ever work on that stuff anymore.
Life is too short...
I'm using Jack for Radium, and I don't see a big point in adding support
for other systems to get sound out.
So there will be an alternative for jack pilot sometimes in the near
future. I don't know how the state is for
the source code of jack pilot though, so most likely qjackctl will get a
brush up for macos instead.
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The point is not only JackPilot, but JackRouter/CoreAudio, the virtual CoreAudio device that allows any CoreAudio application to become a JACK client. Much like JackRouter/ASIO on Windows. |
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 10:42 AM Stéphane Letz ***@***.***> wrote:
The point is not only JackPilot, but JackRouter/CoreAudio, the virtual
CoreAudio device that allows any CoreAudio application to become a JACK
client. Much like JackRouter/ASIO on Windows.
Oh, right. Unfortunately I don't have any direct motivation to fix those
things. I would have looked at it if I had infinite time available. I guess
it's possible though? Doesn't soundflower do something like this?
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Read back: Jackosx the only one that keeps sync traktor and ableton, without cracks, soundflowers and blackhole the sync is lost and they have cracks. |
Oh, so the cracks are there because of the way soundflower transfer
audio? I thought maybe the reason for jack keeping sync was because
ableton and traktor supports jack transport? (but maybe they don't
support jack transport)
…On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 10:49 AM Stéphane Letz ***@***.***> wrote:
Read back: Jackosx the only one that keeps sync traktor and ableton, without cracks, soundflowers and blackhole the sync is lost and they have cracks.
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If traktor and ableton doesn't support jack directly, wouldn't it make
sense for paying customer to ask for those two programs to support
jack and jack transport? That seems like a much better solution to fix
this problem.
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Oh, so the cracks are there because of the way soundflower transfer
audio? I thought maybe the reason for jack keeping sync was because
ableton and traktor supports jack transport? (but maybe they don't
support jack transport)
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> Read back: Jackosx the only one that keeps sync traktor and ableton, without cracks, soundflowers and blackhole the sync is lost and they have cracks.
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If we don't even ask Big Commercial software companies about stuff we
want/need, how are we supposed to let them know there is a need.
I am a very happy user of almost everything U-he have developed and I
imagine their Linux VSTs came after enough Linux users asked them about
providing Linux VSTs. The same could be true about other companies..
/Anders
Den sön 17 nov. 2019 kl 12:10 skrev Stéphane Letz <[email protected]
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- *so the cracks are there because of the way soundflower transfer
audio?* Yes. No central synchronous activalion model with
Soundflower...
- *wouldn't it make sense for paying customer to ask for those two
programs:* hahahha ((-; no way... JACK on OSX runs since 2004
basically, and I don't know of any big commercial application that has ever
looked a bit at this "alien stuff" coming from the open-source world...
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hahahha ((-; no way... JACK on OSX runs since 2004 basically, and I
don't know of any big commercial application that has ever looked a bit at
this "alien stuff" coming from the open-source world...
Both Bitwig (probably the main competitor of ableton live) and MASCHINE
(made by the same company that makes Kontakt) appear to support jack
transport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFx4nTC6iz4
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I meant "Traktor", not "Kontakt". All three programs are made by
native instruments though. I wouldn't be surprised if Traktor supports
jack transport already.
…On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:07 PM Kjetil Matheussen ***@***.***> wrote:
> hahahha ((-; no way... JACK on OSX runs since 2004 basically, and I don't know of any big commercial application that has ever looked a bit at this "alien stuff" coming from the open-source world...
Both Bitwig (probably the main competitor of ableton live) and MASCHINE (made by the same company that makes Kontakt) appear to support jack transport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFx4nTC6iz4
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Nice! I was not aware of that. |
Here's a version of qjackctl 0.6.0 (latest) for macox: https://github.com/kmatheussen/qjackctl_macos/archive/master.zip unzip and run the QJackCtl app. I've tested myself now, and Jack seems to run just fine on Mac 11.15 Catalina. Just use qjackctl instead of jackpilot. |
This is great, thank you. I am using SuperCollider and in order to connect to Jack, I think I need JackRouter, which doesn't work at the moment. Any chance this could be fixed? |
Same here, this might be hit by the notarization function introduced on MacOS recently; are there any workarounds amidst any further updates especially for SC, that would be extremely helpful. |
@kmatheussen - do i see it right that midi (i.e. coremidi on the mac) is not supported with your qjackctl build? i just checked and there were no midi ports - the old jack pilot jackd seemed to have an "-X coremidi" option, which maybe does not exist in the mainline jack? a lot of thanks in advance and best wishes - hexdump |
Hi @hexdump0815. That's possible, but I can't check the qjackctl build now
since I don't have access to the computer. Remind me again in a couple of
weeks, if you remember. I'll try to remember too.
…On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:41 AM hexdump0815 ***@***.***> wrote:
@kmatheussen <https://github.com/kmatheussen> - do i see it right that
midi (i.e. coremidi on the mac) is not supported with your qjackctl build?
i just checked and there were no midi ports - the old jack pilot jackd
seemed to have an "-X coremidi" option, which maybe does not exist in the
mainline jack?
a lot of thanks in advance and best wishes - hexdump
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@kmatheussen - does "close to three weeks" qualify as "in a couple of weeks" for the reminder :) |
Sorry, due to the virus situation, I can't do it now. Don't know when I'll
get access to that computer again.
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reminder :)
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no problem |
Hi people, Jackpilot abd Jack Router is not working, but qjackctl is still ok. There is a newer version available by macports and there is a replacement for the router plugin what I could compile and make work. |
Hello I would like to simple utility that listens to speaker audio / loop back and creates a .wav file, for Mac is it possible? I read for Mac it's not possible, Please reply ASAP |
Hi,
Everything is possible :)
It's not clear what you want though...
Speaker audio is the output of the built-in sound card. If you want to
catch an app's audio output, try BlackHole virtual audio driver for Mac.
You can find description their website.
This way you can redirect this audio stream to a recorder app (e.g.
Audacity).
Regards,
grzs
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I would like to simple utility that listens to speaker audio / loop back
and creates a .wav file,
for Mac is it possible? I read for Mac it's not possible, Please reply ASAP
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Thank you so much for your answer But we need programmatically to listens to speaker audio , We need to have BlackHole virtual audio drivers or SoundFlower, without that it's not possible? |
What I don't understand is the 'listens to speaker audio' part.
The audio flow is like this:
application -> audio server (core audio, jack, blackhole) -> audio driver
(core audio) -> soundcard output (speaker) -> listener's ear
The only point within the system where you can redirect the sound is the
audio server. I suppose you need an application which catches the flow
aimed to the speaker, records it and let it go in the same time. In jack
you can do it, but still need a jack client what you can choose in the app
as audio output (JackBridge). Alternatively you can set it as default audio
device. I found (didn't try) a software by rogueamoeba.com which looks more
transparent, but it's not free. It's called audiohijack.
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… Thank you so much for your answer
But we need programmatically to listens to speaker audio , We need to have
BlackHole virtual audio drivers or SoundFlower, without that it's not
possible?
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Hello, I try to connect traktor 3 with Ableton. I want to play tracks in traktor and use the effects of ableton over those tracks. |
Hi, |
I'd also like jack router to work as a sound device in Catalina! |
is it possible to just control jackrouter from the terminal? |
when I tested it last time there wasn't a working jackrouter available. There is JackBridge as a virtual audio interface for Mac OS but there is nothing to control. It has 2 input and 4 output channels and that's it. What do you want to achieve? |
I want to go back to having apps show up in Jack connections window.
Can you link me to the official jackbridge version? Thank you.
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when I tested it last time there wasn't a working jackrouter available.
There is JackBridge as a virtual audio interface for Mac OS but there is
nothing to control. It has 2 input and 4 output channels and that's it.
What do you want to achieve?
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Yeah, so JACK Audio won't simply work on the latest MacOS cause Apple. No support for 32 bit. Either downgrade or go on Windows or Linux. I can't even imagine what's gonna happen when Apple goes to ARM :( |
JACK works on macOS 10.15 just fine, what does not work is JackRouter, maintainers welcome. I did not do any tests on macOS 11 yet, but assuming the same APIs are still in place, JACK will keep working. |
Although I can confirm that When I open my Patchbay and try to add sockets, all I get is Here is the message output
and here is the Status output |
Ardour, Bitwig, Carla, LMMS and Radium support JACK natively. I have a "synth" plugin that can be placed into a DAW/plugin-host that allows them to talk JACK-MIDI. |
I suppose all your results concern macOS 10.15 on an Intel based system? Do we have any idea about if / how Jack is going to run on Apple silicon yet? |
I dont have access to such hardware, nor do I know anyone that does. so it is going to be difficult. if someone is willing to give ssh access to such a machine, it would help a lot. |
I had JackCtl and JackPilot installed on my MBP... installed Catalina Mac OS and was greeted with the infamous crossed out symbol on JackPilot
I checked and I may be running an old tar'd binary... not sure here, but would the right move be to build and install this source here on this repository?
Thanks
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