Update Italian Translations #591

andscape-dev · 2023-06-13T10:47:17Z

Update the translations to Italian added by @andreaippo in #533, based on discussions with the community on Feddit.it (thread).

Notable updates:

Attempt to remove gendered nouns for users
Standardize capitalization for UI elements
Fix gender suffixes (ex: "Tutte" -> "Tutti" for Posts)
Fix specific strings based on user feedback from thread (ex: "Mostra Sorgente" -> "Mostra Markdown")
Add translations for strings added in recent commits

# Conflicts: # app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:03:53Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

+    <string name="markdownHelper_formatItalic">Formatta in Corsivo</string>
+    <string name="markdownHelper_insertQuote">Inserisci Citazione</string>
+    <string name="markdownHelper_insertList">Inserisci Lista</string>
+    <string name="markdownHelper_insertHeader">Insericsci Titolo</string>


InseriCsci -> Inserisci

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:05:25Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

+    <string name="markRead">Segna Come Già Letto</string>
+    <string name="markUnread">Segna Come Non Letto</string>
+    <string name="comment_save">Salva Commento</string>
+    <string name="comment_unsave">De-salva Commento</string>


What is this for? De-salva is unheard of. Maybe Annulla Modifiche? Or Ignora Commento?

Yeah, de-salva sucks hahah, I couldn't come up with a better opposite for "salvare". "Ignora Commento" could work, but I'm not sure it's clear to users that it unsaves a comment...

Oh I see maybe, this is to "star" a comment for finding it back later on?
I though it had to do with comment editing features instead, hence my proposal to go with "Ignora".
How about "Rimuovi da commenti salvati"?

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:06:10Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

+    <string name="removeBookmark">Rimuovi Dai Segnalibri</string>
+    <string name="commentFooter_reply">Rispondi A Questo Commento</string>
+    <string name="dialog_moreOptions">Mostra Più Opzioni</string>
+    <string name="pickImage_imagePreview">Anteprima dell\' Immagine Caricata</string>


Extra space after apostrophe

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:06:55Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

+    <string name="bottomBar_communityList">Vai Alla Lista Delle Comunità</string>
+    <string name="bottomBar_bookmarks">Vai Ai Miei Segnalibri</string>
+    <string name="bottomBar_profile">Vai Al Mio Profilo</string>
+    <string name="bottomBar_inbox">Vai Alla Mia Inbox</string>


You renamed this to Posta In Arrivo earlier, but now it's Inbox again, so which one is it?

Fixed using Posta in Arrivo everywhere

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:08:35Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

    <string name="sorttype_active">Attivi</string>
-    <string name="sorttype_hot">Di tendenza</string>
-    <string name="sorttype_old">Old</string>
+    <string name="sorttype_hot">Di Tendenza</string>


You changed this in an earlier occurrence, to translate as "Popolari". Which is fine by me.
But here it's "Di Tendenza" again, which is inconsistent.

Fixed using Popolari

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:12:02Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

    <string name="look_and_feel_use_custom_tabs">Usa schede personalizzate</string>
    <string name="settings_activity_settings">Impostazioni</string>
-    <string name="settings_activity_look_and_feel">Aspetto</string>
+    <string name="settings_activity_look_and_feel">Aspetto Interfaccia</string>
    <string name="settings_activity_account_settings">%1$s impostazioni</string>


Missing capitalization for Impostazioni

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:15:04Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

    <string name="look_and_feel_look_and_feel">Aspetto</string>
-    <string name="look_and_feel_font_size">Dimensione carattere: %1$s</string>
+    <string name="look_and_feel_font_size">Grandezza font: %1$s</string>


I see various changes to replace leftover yet very popular English words with their Italian counterpart (e.g. Inbox, which you changed to Posta In Arrivo, Community to Comunità, and so on).
Yet here you do the opposite, prefering Font over Carattere. We should try and be more consistent.

I need to get some inspiration from other apps, but for example Android translates this, in the system Settings, as "Dimensioni (plural) carattere". So yeah, I'd rather go back to the previous translation here, maybe turning dimensione into plural form.

I agree with undoing the change. "Dimensioni" though seems wrong, since it's referring to a single value.

ok, then back to Dimensione Carattere is fine by me

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:18:01Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

+    <string name="account_settings_show_notifications_for_new_posts">Invia Notifiche per Nuovi Post</string>
+    <string name="account_settings_send_notifications_to_email">Invia Notifiche via Email</string>
+    <string name="account_settings_save_settings">Salva Impostazioni</string>
+    <string name="account_settings_activity_account_settings">Impostazioni Account</string>


In a previous translation you replace account with profilo, but here it's account again. Which one?

Fixed using Profilo everywhere

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:20:08Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

-    <string name="account_settings_mostcomments">Più commenti</string>
-    <string name="account_settings_newcomments">Nuovi commenti</string>
-    <string name="account_settings_default_sort_type">Ordinamento predefinito</string>
+    <string name="account_settings_topday">TopGiorno</string>


These are values for a drop-down. While I know that in English there's no spacing to separe multiple words at this location, I wonder if that's a glitch, and what would be the problem with using spaces to separate words here.

I've changed it to expand the strings. Tested it in Android Studio and it seems to work fine...

Great! I wonder if you'd feel like opening a MR on the original (English) strings as well, maybe it's indeed a glitch by the dev ;)

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T12:26:57Z

app/src/main/res/values-it/strings.xml

Thanks for the great work, you caught a few slips here and there as well. 👍
In general, though, I can't say I'm a fan of capitalizing every noun and sometimes even articles?
It's not the practice of our language (as opposed to, say, German).
I would much rather prefer capitalizing the first letter of a sentence and be done with it, also to reduce visual clutter.
I'm currently on my mobile and the first app I have at hand (Firefox) doesn't do this neither (e.g. Salva in una raccolta, Aggiungi alle scorciatoie)

Magneticdud · 2023-06-13T13:00:11Z

<string name="markdownHelper_formatStrikethrough">Formatta ComeTesto Barrato</string> manca lo spazio

Ma perché ogni parola è maiuscola? Per esempio <string name="bottomBar_communityList">Vai Alla Lista Delle Comunità</string>.

La Leggibilità Nel Caso Ogni Parola Sia Maiuscola Mi Pare Inferiore. A Meno Che Non Sia Una Scelta Stilistica Dell'App Che Si Riflette Anche Nelle Altre Lingue, In Italiano, Solo I Nomi Propri Si Scrivono In Maiuscolo

dessalines

Should I hold off on merging this until everyone's satisfied? Or would everyone prefer to merge this, then do additional PRs for small fixes?

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T13:27:51Z

Should I hold off on merging this until everyone's satisfied? Or would everyone prefer to merge this, then do additional PRs for small fixes?

Hey, while I still have some remarks, I'm personally a fan of the "done is better than perfect" approach.
So if the others also agree I'd say merge it.
We can keep discussing our different POVs on this MR, and depending on the outcome open a small follow-up one.

@andscape-dev what do you think, author? :)
If OK for you, pls also notice that a rebase is needed

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T13:29:12Z

<string name="markdownHelper_formatStrikethrough">Formatta ComeTesto Barrato</string> manca lo spazio

Ma perché ogni parola è maiuscola? Per esempio <string name="bottomBar_communityList">Vai Alla Lista Delle Comunità</string>.

La Leggibilità Nel Caso Ogni Parola Sia Maiuscola Mi Pare Inferiore. A Meno Che Non Sia Una Scelta Stilistica Dell'App Che Si Riflette Anche Nelle Altre Lingue, In Italiano, Solo I Nomi Propri Si Scrivono In Maiuscolo

Concordo, ed è il commento che ho fatto anch'io qui:

#591 (comment)

andscape-dev · 2023-06-13T13:46:21Z

Thanks @andreaippo for the review! I've fixed most of the issues you pointed out, let me know if we can resolve the convos. I haven't changed "de-salva" yet, can we come up with a clearer solution?

For the capitalization I don't have a strong opinion. I do prefer capitalization for UI labels, since for me they're closer to titles than body text, but that might be because I'm used to English locales. It's also used in the English version of Jerboa, even though English grammar doesn't require capitalizing nouns. However, if it's standard not to capitalize labels in the Italian locale, we can revert to that format. I would say let's keep this for another PR though.

andreaippo · 2023-06-13T13:55:10Z

Thanks @andreaippo for the review! I've fixed most of the issues you pointed out, let me know if we can resolve the convos. I haven't changed "de-salva" yet, can we come up with a clearer solution?

For the capitalization I don't have a strong opinion. I do prefer capitalization for UI labels, since for me they're closer to titles than body text, but that might be because I'm used to English locales. It's also used in the English version of Jerboa, even though English grammar doesn't require capitalizing nouns. However, if it's standard not to capitalize labels in the Italian locale, we can revert to that format. I would say let's keep this for another PR though.

Indeed let's try to address the ugly de-salva first LOL
As for capitalization, as @Magneticdud and I said in other comments, it looks clunky and out of place in Italian apps. Any Android app I'm opening now (Gmail, Pixel dialer) further backs this position. But I agree about handling this in another MR ;)

andscape-dev · 2023-06-13T13:57:33Z

@andreaippo How about "scarta" instead of de-salva? Gives the idea of something you have and want to throw away...

andscape-dev · 2023-06-13T14:11:33Z

@dessalines I think we're ready

dessalines

Mmmk great!

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