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New urban raw dataset currently inconsistent with CTSM code and urban temperature streams file #1252

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slevis-lmwg opened this issue Jan 14, 2021 · 3 comments · Fixed by #1254
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Brief summary of bug

The CTSM currently crashes when using a newly generated surface dataset. Mksurfdat points to a new urban raw dataset that puts nlevurb = 10 in surface datasets, while the CTSM hardwires nlevurb = 5. See recommended workaround below.

General bug information

CTSM version you are using: ctsm5.1.dev021

Does this bug cause significantly incorrect results in the model's science? Model crashes

Configurations affected: All

Details of bug

Relates directly to #1157 #591
Relates tangentially to #1195 #674

Recommended workaround: Manually make mksurfdat point to the old raw dataset mksrf_furban = '/glade/p/cesm/cseg/inputdata/lnd/clm2/rawdata/mksrf_urban_0.05x0.05_simyr2000.c120621.nc'.

Not recommended: Setting nlevurb = 10 in the CTSM because the urban temperature streams file will still be inconsistent with the new mksrf_furban.

@billsacks billsacks added bug something is working incorrectly priority: high High priority to fix/merge soon, e.g., because it is a problem in important configurations labels Jan 14, 2021
@billsacks billsacks added the next this should get some attention in the next week or two. Normally each Thursday SE meeting. label Jan 14, 2021
@ekluzek ekluzek self-assigned this Jan 15, 2021
@ekluzek ekluzek removed the priority: high High priority to fix/merge soon, e.g., because it is a problem in important configurations label Jan 15, 2021
@ekluzek ekluzek added this to the ctsm5.2.0 milestone Jan 15, 2021
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ekluzek commented Jan 15, 2021

@slevisconsulting this is a known issue. Although I should have made it clearer for people. Current ctsm5.1 development is including updates that will lead to new surface datasets which is what ctsm5.2 development will be.

As such if you need to make new datasets for ctsm5.1 work, you should use: ctsm1.0.dev113.

@billsacks billsacks added the priority: high High priority to fix/merge soon, e.g., because it is a problem in important configurations label Jan 15, 2021
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@ekluzek I feel like we have always had the (unwritten) rule that, for any given model tag, the surface datasets created in that tag should be compatible with the code in that tag. That was a very helpful rule and I think we should maintain that.

That said, I don't understand all the subtleties here. If there is some problem with maintaining compatibility between the code & mksurfdata_map, then we should discuss that further.

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I do not need to weigh in on the above comments. Regarding any new WRF/LILAC datasets, I am comfortable with either @ekluzek 's suggestion to use ctsm1.0.dev113 or @olyson 's suggestion to point to the old mksrf_furban.

@billsacks billsacks removed the next this should get some attention in the next week or two. Normally each Thursday SE meeting. label Jan 21, 2021
ekluzek added a commit to swensosc/ctsm that referenced this issue Feb 11, 2021
… use a created surface dataset with this version partial fix for ESCOMP#1252
@ekluzek ekluzek moved this to Done in CTSM: High priority Aug 15, 2024
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