No more multiple wedding rings per zombie

[Karol1223]

Summary

None

Purpose of change

After #76852 there was a tiny (~0.024%) chance for a zombie to spawn with two wedding rings. This is too high.

Describe the solution

Remove wedding rings from accesories_personal_unisex, they should spawn independently from other accessories anyway

Describe alternatives you've considered

Testing

Additional context

[Maleclypse]

Shut it down. https://19thnews.org/2023/04/somerville-massachusetts-legal-protections-polyamorous-families/

[Karol1223]

Shut it down. https://19thnews.org/2023/04/somerville-massachusetts-legal-protections-polyamorous-families/

This is a single city in a single state of the region the game takes place in, I am not convinced this makes it anywhere near common enough to have in the game. And, even then, from what I am reading this isn't legalizing polyamorous marriages?

Not to mention that we don't assume that every married person wears a ring anyway, so if we use the same assumptions for people in polyamorous marriages the odds go even lower. We're reaching odds too low to include in the game very fast.

This also runs into the problem we have of all our wedding rings being identical, instead of us using different types of rings to symbolise wedding rings, but it's a separate issue.

[Consoleable]

Isn't the actual reason for having two wedding rings not necessarily polyamorous, but someone who was intending to propose? That seems like implicit ambient storytelling, which is common in post-apocalyptic games(eg. finding skeletons clutching each other in a destroyed house)

[Karol1223]

Isn't the actual reason for having two wedding rings not necessarily polyamorous, but someone who was intending to propose? That seems like implicit ambient storytelling, which is common in post-apocalyptic games(eg. finding skeletons clutching each other in a destroyed house)

Well, the actual reason is Storm forgot to remove it from the second itemgroup.

But if you wanna get into the details I believe it's the engagement ring you're thinking of, which is also a separate item altogether.

[Consoleable]

Isn't the actual reason for having two wedding rings not necessarily polyamorous, but someone who was intending to propose? That seems like implicit ambient storytelling, which is common in post-apocalyptic games(eg. finding skeletons clutching each other in a destroyed house)

Well, the actual reason is Storm forgot to remove it from the second itemgroup.

But if you wanna get into the details I believe it's the engagement ring you're thinking of, which is also a separate item altogether.

could also be someone carrying around the wedding ring of a deceased spouse.

[Karol1223]

could also be someone carrying around the wedding ring of a deceased spouse.

It very well could be, but this is also reaching insanely unlikely levels of being witnessed in the scope of the game. I am not sure how common the behavior is in the first place, and keep in mind that you'd have to luck out into finding a zombie that still hasn't lost the ring in the whole process of... you know, dying, and then shambling around in tattered clothes.

This was discussed all the way back in #63311, and is why I keep an eye out for this sort of things happening in the game itemgroups.

I am not saying this is something that can never happen - I am saying that this would not be happening often enough to warrant simulating in the game. At least I believe so, and given the conversations in the comments of the linked PR I'd say I'm not alone in this.

In an ideal world I think we could ditch the wedding ring item altogether, and instead spawn different types of rings all around the place, letting the players decide what they think the stories behind them were, but that's out of scope for this PR.

[Consoleable]

could also be someone carrying around the wedding ring of a deceased spouse.

It very well could be, but this is also reaching insanely unlikely levels of being witnessed in the scope of the game. I am not sure how common the behavior is in the first place, and keep in mind that you'd have to luck out into finding a zombie that still hasn't lost the ring in the whole process of... you know, dying, and then shambling around in tattered clothes.

This was discussed all the way back in #63311, and is why I keep an eye out for this sort of things happening in the game itemgroups.

I am not saying this is something that can never happen - I am saying that this would not be happening often enough to warrant simulating in the game. At least I believe so, and given the conversations in the comments of the linked PR I'd say I'm not alone in this.

In an ideal world I think we could ditch the wedding ring item altogether, and instead spawn different types of rings all around the place, letting the players decide what they think the stories behind them were, but that's out of scope for this PR.

thanks for humoring my line of inquiry

[Maleclypse]

I understand that I only shared the one article but more cities in Massachusetts have done so since then including one of the cities that make up Greater Boston. With the already tiny odds in game I’m personally fine with the odds as is. I guarantee there are a larger number of right hand wedding bands than you suspect in any US state. Recognized or not.

[esotericist]

btw, to prevent misunderstandings: me merging this is merging a bugfix for what looks like a data entry error. it is not in any way a statement that multiple wedding rings are inappropriate, i just think if it happens it needs to be on purpose, with both a rationale and list structured to handle it in a way that can be understood and reasoned about.

[Night-Pryanik]

Just an anecdote: I've seen many times when my not-so-experienced, or simply foolish, co-workers (who was wearing rings), accidentally hooked their rings to protruding parts of machinery, and traumatized their fingers. I've heard that some unlucky fellows even lost their fingers that way (haven't seen this with my eyes though).
That's why I took my wedding ring off and gave it to my wife, and she's wearing two wedding rings on a finger.