Debian jessie: no zfs 0.6.5.3 #181
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Because I've been busy with moving and personal issues and haven't got a new home for my development environment yet. I'm working on it, and with a little bit of luck, I'll get something in the next few weeks. |
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Regarding 0.6.5.3, keep in mind openzfs/spl#490 (spl-dkms build error with linux 2.6.32, under RHEL/Fedora/Centos). Ubuntu users have 0.6.5.3 available in PPA already. Please test and report any issues (don't forget to make snapshots!). |
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There is another problem by releasing spl-dkms 0.6.5.3 but not zfs-dkms 0.6.5.3 together. I accidentally updated spl-dkms, and I noticied that when zfs-dkms 0.6.5.2 failed to build. So, I needed to downgrade spl-dkms and the both spl-dkms and zfs-dkms 0..6.5.2 built successfuly. As I mentioned in other issues, DON'T update dkms packages if the both spl-dkms and zfs-dkms don't have the same version available, and always make snapshots! @FransUrbo, do the best you can do, but please fix this issue as soon as possible. |
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@FransUrbo how are you? What's about your DevEnv? |
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@FransUrbo any ETA of packaging & releasing 0.6.5.4? I see just four issues with milestone 0.6.5.4 (in zfs; spl have none) and all they seem to have a patch merged in master. |
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@mailinglists35 0.6.5.4 isn't quite tagged yet, but it should be soon. As for the Debian packaging it's my understanding that @FransUrbo's development environment isn't currently available so you may need to roll your own 0.6.5.4 when it's tagged. |
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It doesn't look like it's going to happen in the forceable future :( I'm still in the process of migrating to the UK and all my stuff (especially the computer/development hardware) is in storage. I had a small chance of having parts of it at a friends house, but that didn't happen, so I'll have to wait until the move is complete. How long that will take in practice, is anyones guess and mine is "hopefully no longer than six months, at the worst a year"… :( So don't hold your breath for a new version :( Besides, Debian GNU/Linux is hopefully soon going to release it into the repository, so with a little luck, we'll have it in the correct repository "soon". It's finally migrated to the "New" queue (after laying in "Incoming" for years :) - https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html. Since the two major showstoppers (the license and the package names) have been resolved, "The General Opinion™) is that it will now be accepted as soon as the FTP maintainers have time to review it. How long THAT will take is anyones guess (considering that they took two years to deal with it, which they really didn't - "The Leader" had to step in and more or less force it into "New"). Also have a look at the official ticket about getting ZoL into Debian GNU/Linux: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686447 (it's long and full of "opinions" and "conjectures" - some of them wrong IMO, but it's something). Considering that it will NEVER be accepted into Jessie (it's released and no new software is going in there), I MIGHT be supporting Jessie in the ZoL name/repositories once my hardware is up and running again, but that'll be a decision I'll take when that day comes… FYI, IF someone in the South West UK (London and/or surroundings) have an interest to sponsor this job (providing server space and 'Net access for my servers so I can keep doing packages), I'm all for discussing the issue (do this in private if so). Otherwise, everyone just have to wait until I've solved it myself. |
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Only for reference to others and until something official is available: I switched to use the ZFS packages provided by Proxmox, which is an addition to Debian Jessie (amd64 only) using their Ubuntu LTS 4.2 kernel. It only adds a few packages and works great. |
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Version Eventually, I might do a couple of Jessie packages, but don't hold your breath. I'm still in the process of relocating to the UK, and I don't expect to be up and running before summer :(. |
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I feel ya, moving is a PITA, just did a move at the end of December and things still aren't working as before :/ |
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@FransUrbo I cannot find any 0.6.5.4 packages in Debian Unstable for amd64. |
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Only spl-linux is in unstable and now testing. The most problematic package zfs-linux is still waiting. https://qa.debian.org/[email protected] @behlendorf @happyaron Isn't it possible to put the packages from Aron XU inside ZoL repository? |
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@FransUrbo is it difficult to transfer the know-how to somebody else? or did you not find someone to replace you during this period? it's quite frustrating to know the packaging depends on a single person and that person is going to be unavailable for such a long time... |
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Try http://list.zfsonlinux.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2016-January/024430.html Note that it's only intended as temporary workaround |
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@FransUrbo feel for you, moving let alone immigrating is a long and painful process. With regard to the packaging, I might be missing something but couldn't the building of packages just be done on EC2? From memory archive.zfsonlinux.org is already hosted on S3. Whilst slow, a micro.t2 instance should be able to package and upload the package in a reasonable timeframe and is free for a year. Also if the debian packages are not going to be upgraded in the short term, it might be a good idea to put a note on http://zfsonlinux.org/debian.html |
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So, I'm trying the packages from PPA (0.6.5.4-1). I'll tell if them work properly. |
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I've said it before, but I'll say it again: ANYONE caught using the Ubuntu (or any other package not intended to Debian GNU/Linux proper) packages will be completely on their own!! I just can't stress that enough!! I will not in any way help when problems occurs! |
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I can help on putting my package on zol.org, just want to know how the binaries are published. Well I'm currently trying hard to push the package into Debian's official repo but it appears the work isn't progressing well. |
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Aron - I see that the the ZFS package is no longer listed under "new" in the Debian master FTP. Is that because it was rejected? If so can you say why? FransUrbo if you could assist Aron is publishing his packages that would be great. I hope your move is going OK. |
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Debian FTP Team found some files are licensed under BSD license but those ones were not included in debian/copyright file, so it was rejected. |
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Sounds like fun! But that doesn't sound like fundamental a blocking issue? It's just a matter of jumping through all their hoops? Granted it took them 3 weeks to find this issue... |
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@FransUrbo Very sorry about your issues. In the meantime, do you have some instruction on how you made the builds/test for the Debian packages? Or can you tell us what do you need to generate the packages? If the issue is server environment only, maybe we could give you access to some hardware. |
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Does anyone else finds this ridiculous that the packaging depends on one person Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pi&cv=7.2.19&pv=8.4] — |
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@happyaron I believe this page has some instructions as to how the packages are published: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs @FransUrbo Please help Aron with uploading his packages. If it may take months before a) they are accepted into Debian, or b) you can personally build and upload a new version of Debian ZFS, it would really help out your users to assist Aron with getting his already built packages out sooner. |
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@mailinglists35 Whilst I do agree with that the situation is not ideal, I think we should thank @FransUrbo for the work he has done in the past. @behlendorf Is there a reason why Debian packaging is handled out of the make branch. Can deb packaging not be included in the main project? |
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@behlendorf That is a really good question. Normally it only consists of a directory named |
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Here is an example of the extras that @FransUrbo may consider putting into his Debian releases (openzfs/zfs#4474 (comment)). This take not only expertise and experience, but also familiarity with ZoL and current issues. This type of active package maintenance is something that can only come from ZoL. I hope for easier maintenance in the future @fallenguru #181 (comment) suggestions can be utilized with this and other fixes/extras used for Debian. |
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How many really, really want Wheezy packages of the Don't reply, just "Like" this comment (upper right corner there's a smiley - click that and there's a "Like"). I'm not promising anything anyway, but it will give me an idea how many want it. Please only "Like" if you consider this very (or "extremely") important! |
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Update: I'll start the Wheezy package tomorrow. Enjoy! |
It's not the first I wouldn't say. Proxmox has supported ZFS out of the box and with all the latest updates and such. They are essentially just Debian as well. Heck, you can even install Proxmox to a ZFS root pool right from the installer ISO through the installer GUI. Seems pretty well supported and baked in. |
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Great news, @FransUrbo! I'm waiting for this update, because of a kernel panic issue. Is it really available now? At the moment my machine (debian jessie) still doesn't find it. |
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Yeah, it's up since last night.
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I just pushed the Wheezy packages as well. Give it an hour or so. Enjoy! |
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@FransUrbo Well done and thanks for your hard work..... |
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Note (0.6.5.6-1): Debian Jessie users may be thrown into BusyBox on system startup, if using ZFS as the root fs. see: #200. I did not run into this issue under 0.6.5.2-2 Debian Jessie release. |
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@FransUrbo Not sure whether to report this here, as a seperate issue in pkg-zfs or somewhere else (the pkg-spl repo does not have issues enabled).. Is it possible you made an error when updating pkg-spl? The tag 'master/debian/jessie/0.6.5.6-1' seems to be based on the packaging for the last 0.6.4 release, and not the last 0.6.5 release.. The spl upstream part itself looks good to me, but the gbp.conf and changelog are plain wrong, and there are a lot of changes regarding the dkms and module packaging that I did not check in detail yet.. |
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Checking out So the changelog is correct. However, you're right about the |
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I'm going to close this now. Any other issues with the packages, please report a new issue on pkg-spl (or pkg-zfs respectivly). |
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But that means that the following changelog entries from 0.6.4-1b..0.6.5-1 are silently dropped (and it seems, also the packaging changes that were included in those releases?): The 0.6.5.6-1-wheezy spl-linux source package on archive.zfsonlinux.org does include all those changes and seems to be based on 0.6.5-1-wheezy, not 0.6.4-1b (the 0.6.5.6-1 wheezy tag does not seem to be pushed to pkg-spl by the way). Sorry for pestering you about this, I just want to make sure this was intentional and not by accident ;) |
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https://tracker.debian.org/news/767706 zfs-linux (0.6.5.6-1) accepted in sid |
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@FransUrbo do you plan on releasing dkms based on 0.6.5.8? |
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No. But Debian GNU/Linux will. |
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What about Wheezy? That is not supported by Debian. |
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Unless someone have the interest in creating their own repo, backporting the Debian GNU/Linux packages and maintain all that, Wheezy won't happen either :( |
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How much was the work you have put into this? Is there any way to pay you for maintaining Wheezy for another year until our migration to a newer platform is finished? |
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Is there a reason you can't just build the debs for Wheezy yourself? I didn't find anything about it particularly difficult and everything just worked great. You only have to build the packages once and then you can deploy them to all your machines running Wheezy (assuming they are all on the same Kernel) https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Custom-Packages |
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@nicko88 you can't produce dkms builds for wheezy, only kmods |
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I guess I didn't realize kmods was a problem. It seemed to make sense that if you are maintaining ZFS on many Debian machines that building it once as kmod and installing those packages on all the machines would be easier. |
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yes it would be easier until next kernel update when you'd have to rebuild & distribute again |
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But Debian only updates the kernel once every 2 years. Unless you are using backports I suppose but I think most people stick to the main kernel. |
I've been thinking about this all week, but I just don't have the time! I started a new job on Monday and I have my hands full at home with setting up my new Openstack cluster (which is/was supposed to give me more time to do ZoL development - oh, the irony!!). I'm also busy trying to get my two major PRs in shape for merging by going through the reviews I've finally got on them.. So I have to say no :(. I simply don't have the time to do this. |
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No worries! I can totally understand. |
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Hi,
The latest version available for Debian Jessie is 0.6.5.2-2. 0.6.3 Was released some time ago, why isn't it in the repository?
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