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[REMOVE] Remove brave browser #69

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moon-chilled opened this issue Feb 17, 2020 · 6 comments
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[REMOVE] Remove brave browser #69

moon-chilled opened this issue Feb 17, 2020 · 6 comments
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@moon-chilled
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Brave's business model is basically to block websites' native ads and replace them with their own. This isn't something that should be encouraged.

@tycrek
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tycrek commented Feb 18, 2020

I agree with you on that point. I'll leave this issue open for now in case anyone has a valid reason to dispute this, but if there is no opposition I'll remove it within the week. (If I forget to just ping me)

@rchavik
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rchavik commented Feb 21, 2020

I disagree. I think Brave is trying to solve a hard problem and attempting to offer a privacy focused ad-platform.

It may still have to work out some kinks, but I think it can stay on list.

@pajamaw
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pajamaw commented Feb 24, 2020

Whether or not to remove it from the desktop applications is one thing, but I'd definitely add Brave as an alternative to Google Adsense, as Brave Ads is user-first
(still in beta though)
https://brave.com/brave-ads-waitlist/

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danarel commented Apr 14, 2020

It’s worth noting that Peter Thiel is one of the major investors in Brave. He’s the founder of Palantir, and sits on the Facebook board of directors.

Palantir has long advocated for violating data privacy rights and also develops software for ICE in the US.

YouTuber Tom Scott was not happy to learn that Brave was collecting funds on his behalf, and then keeping them because Scott wasn’t signed up as part of their creator platform. While brave has done some work to improve this, they started off with a shady business model and honestly, Brave isn’t much more than adware mean to sell their cryptocurrency.

How anyone trusts brave is beyond me.

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tycrek commented Apr 14, 2020

@danarel for sake of discussion, would you mind providing links for your points? I remember hearing about Tom Scott and Brave but am far too tired to look it up right now as it's nearly 1AM for me. Otherwise I can look up links later on.

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tycrek commented Apr 14, 2020

Peter Thiel investing

Palantir

Tom Scott & Brave

Numerous issues on the privacytools.io GitHub repo about Brave

To quote @dawidpotocki, in this issue:

Nope. We don't need another shitstorm.

My conclusion

Brave is no doubt a shady company with a history of bad business practices. I would say the majority of people in the privacy/security area do not forgive these kinds of practices easily. Once trust is broken, it's hard to get it back. I'm not here to write an essay, so I'll end with this: Brave Browser is being removed and will not be added again, to avoid headaches such as all the above Any issues or PR's to add Brave back will be closed.

Edit: I can't spell

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