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first draft for the required number of RSEs #23

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So, as promised I created numbers on the number of required RSEs.
Feel free to discuss!

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mostly missing punctuation.
Depending on what public researchers means the calculations seem sound estimates to me.

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The challenges of understanding the current state of skills within the research software community and related areas, as well as identifying required competencies, developing training pathways and providing training materials are areas that are being looked at and addressed by various groups and projects. In this section, we highlight some of these other projects and activities.

## Number of required RSE graduates
In order to set up the argument for dedicated RSE education we need to estimate the number of required graduates.
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argument,

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In this context, I think I'd say the comma is not required...

## Number of required RSE graduates
In order to set up the argument for dedicated RSE education we need to estimate the number of required graduates.
We start from the number of researchers in Germany. The OECD Data [OECD2023] reports a number of 667,394 researchers in 2019.
In public research alone we have better numbers and there have been 71733 researcher in 2020.
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71,733 (otherwise it's hard to compare) researchers

Taking a rough estimate of requiring around one RSE per 10 researchers (A number that has been put forward in another workshop
in Paderborn) brings us to a need of around 6.000 RSEs in Germany. Assuming an equal distribution with regard to age
and an average time in the RSE workforce of 40 years, yields an average need of around 150 RSEs per year.
If we assume that half of the workforce is made up by researchers coming from other graduates and the other half are properly minted
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How about "from domain specific graduation programs"?

in Paderborn) brings us to a need of around 6.000 RSEs in Germany. Assuming an equal distribution with regard to age
and an average time in the RSE workforce of 40 years, yields an average need of around 150 RSEs per year.
If we assume that half of the workforce is made up by researchers coming from other graduates and the other half are properly minted
RSE graduates this yields that there is a requirement of around four dedicated RSE education places each producing graduating classes
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graduates,
"requirement for" instead of "of"?

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Also, maybe "suggests" rather than "yields"?

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Suggesting a few possible edits/changes. We may want to revisit this as we complete other elements of the paper and see how everything ties together - maybe that will also help us to have a better idea of how realistic this is and offer some more evidence to support the figures?

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The challenges of understanding the current state of skills within the research software community and related areas, as well as identifying required competencies, developing training pathways and providing training materials are areas that are being looked at and addressed by various groups and projects. In this section, we highlight some of these other projects and activities.

## Number of required RSE graduates
In order to set up the argument for dedicated RSE education we need to estimate the number of required graduates.
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In this context, I think I'd say the comma is not required...

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in Paderborn) brings us to a need of around 6.000 RSEs in Germany. Assuming an equal distribution with regard to age
and an average time in the RSE workforce of 40 years, yields an average need of around 150 RSEs per year.
If we assume that half of the workforce is made up by researchers coming from other graduates and the other half are properly minted
RSE graduates this yields that there is a requirement of around four dedicated RSE education places each producing graduating classes
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Also, maybe "suggests" rather than "yields"?

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jcohen02 commented Aug 4, 2023

From discussion at the meeting on 04-08-2023, we like this content but recognise that the predictions here are likely to have significant inaccuracies because there are a lot of assumptions made.

On this basis, we're not sure that this is necessarily relevant for the initial output focused on competencies but are keen to include this and revisit in due course.

@CaptainSifff, could we deal with the FIXME in the content and then merge this?

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