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Alternatives to "bootcamp" #240

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amyrhoda opened this issue Jan 17, 2014 · 17 comments
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Alternatives to "bootcamp" #240

amyrhoda opened this issue Jan 17, 2014 · 17 comments

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@amyrhoda
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We borrowed the "bootcamp" terminology from Hacker Within and also various fitness training camps, but as we branch out into parts of the world with a more violent recent history I'm less comfortable with the term.

Setting aside discussion of whether this is a valid concern, I'm looking for alternatives to the word. Please comment with your suggestions, and if you are fluent in any other languages let us know what you call a Software-Carpentry-type course in your other language(s).

@ahmadia
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ahmadia commented Jan 17, 2014

  • Learning Sprint
  • Workshop
  • Short Course
  • Tutorial

I've never been particularly fond of bootcamp either. How does "Software Carpentry Short Course" sound to you?

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jkitzes commented Jan 17, 2014

I usually call them workshops for short, "scientific computing workshops" when I'm explaining to my PI what I'm working on :P.

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+1 workshop

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Justin Kitzes [email protected]:

I usually call them workshops for short, "scientific computing workshops"
when I'm explaining to my PI what I'm woking on :P.


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@ethanwhite
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Either workshop or short course are good.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, John Blischak [email protected]:

+1 workshop

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Justin Kitzes [email protected]:

I usually call them workshops for short, "scientific computing
workshops"
when I'm explaining to my PI what I'm woking on :P.


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twitwi commented Jan 17, 2014

Workshop seems quite clear. Training or apprenticeship, maybe? (I'm not native English though)

@gvwilson
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What word would you use in your native language?

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twitwi commented Jan 17, 2014

I was originally thinking about it but since "software carpentry" would also need translation, I got lost in translation.

For the kind of event, I might call it “Atelier” (workshop), “stage intensif” (intensive course) or “formation” (training, but it sounds a little too formal). Some English words are also readily ok for most people, like “workshop” or “tutorial”.

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rgaiacs commented Jan 18, 2014

+1 for "workshop".

For portuguese, at least in Brazil, "workshop" fits.

@gvwilson
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Do you use the word "workshop"? If not, what Portuguese word would you use?

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rgaiacs commented Jan 18, 2014

Yes, we use it.

@stevenkoenig
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Workshop is okay for German-speaking countries as well. You see it quite often, but I am not sure if there is some formal definition of what constitutes a workshop. This may depend on the location.

In German you would probably call it "Intensivkurs" (intensive course), just "Kurs" or "Lehrgang" (course), "Crash-Kurs" or "Kurzlehrgang" (crash course), or even "Praxiskurs" (hands-on course).

@amyrhoda
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It hardly needs saying that "workshop" works way better than "bootcamp" with the Software Carpentry metaphor. Hammers and nails at bootcamps just lead to injuries.

@wking
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wking commented Jan 28, 2014

“Workshop” seems pretty unanimous. Time to close, or do we want to
leave this open until conversion PRs have landed? And do we want to
migrate swcarpentry/bc to swcarpentry/workshop?

@ahmadia
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ahmadia commented Jan 28, 2014

+1 to workshop and closing the issue.
+1 to renaming swcarpentry/bc -> swcarpentry/workshop

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wking commented Jan 28, 2014

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:19:22AM -0800, Aron Ahmadia wrote:

+1 to renaming swcarpentry/bc -> swcarpentry/workshop

It looks like this will add redirects to avoid breaking links and
forks:

https://help.github.com/articles/renaming-a-repository

but bc is fairly central, so someone might want to try this with a
dummy repository first.

Alternatively, we could create (another) brand-new workshop repository
and push the bc branches there. Safer for old bc links, but we'll
fragment the PR and issue history.

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jkitzes commented Jan 28, 2014

+1 to workshop, but with one caveat. I actually mentioned this issue to my wife (technologically literate non-coder - i.e., potential target audience), and she pointed out that "bootcamp" implies that the two days will be fast paced and require hard work/participation from attendees, while workshop is more ambiguous but implies a less intensive experience. So still in favor of the switch, but we might want to consider adjusting our branding/advertising to more explicitly use active words like exercise-based, fast paced, intensive, crash course, jump start, etc.

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That's a good point, @jkitzes -- thanks for bringing it up and doing a one-person focus group. :)

wking added a commit to wking/swc-boot-camps-v2 that referenced this issue Apr 21, 2014
Following Amy Brown's [1]:

> We borrowed the "bootcamp" terminology from Hacker Within and also
> various fitness training camps, but as we branch out into parts of
> the world with a more violent recent history I'm less comfortable
> with the term.

The consensus on that issue was to change back to our old 'workshop'
terminology.  The swcarpentry/bc repository hasn't made the shift yet,
but there's no reason I can't embrace the future here ;).

[1]: swcarpentry#240
rgaiacs pushed a commit to rgaiacs/bc that referenced this issue Sep 25, 2014
~~~
$ for file in $(grep -r -l 'bootcamp' .); do sed -i 's/bootcamp/workshop/g' $file; done
$ for file in $(grep -r -l 'boot camp' .); do sed -i 's/boot camp/workshop/g' $file; done
~~~

and others minors changes.

Close swcarpentry#240.
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