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Alternatives to "bootcamp" #240
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I've never been particularly fond of bootcamp either. How does "Software Carpentry Short Course" sound to you? |
I usually call them workshops for short, "scientific computing workshops" when I'm explaining to my PI what I'm working on :P. |
+1 workshop On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Justin Kitzes [email protected]:
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Either workshop or short course are good. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, John Blischak [email protected]:
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Workshop seems quite clear. Training or apprenticeship, maybe? (I'm not native English though) |
What word would you use in your native language? |
I was originally thinking about it but since "software carpentry" would also need translation, I got lost in translation. For the kind of event, I might call it “Atelier” (workshop), “stage intensif” (intensive course) or “formation” (training, but it sounds a little too formal). Some English words are also readily ok for most people, like “workshop” or “tutorial”. |
+1 for "workshop". For portuguese, at least in Brazil, "workshop" fits. |
Do you use the word "workshop"? If not, what Portuguese word would you use? |
Yes, we use it. |
Workshop is okay for German-speaking countries as well. You see it quite often, but I am not sure if there is some formal definition of what constitutes a workshop. This may depend on the location. In German you would probably call it "Intensivkurs" (intensive course), just "Kurs" or "Lehrgang" (course), "Crash-Kurs" or "Kurzlehrgang" (crash course), or even "Praxiskurs" (hands-on course). |
It hardly needs saying that "workshop" works way better than "bootcamp" with the Software Carpentry metaphor. Hammers and nails at bootcamps just lead to injuries. |
“Workshop” seems pretty unanimous. Time to close, or do we want to |
+1 to workshop and closing the issue. |
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:19:22AM -0800, Aron Ahmadia wrote:
It looks like this will add redirects to avoid breaking links and https://help.github.com/articles/renaming-a-repository but bc is fairly central, so someone might want to try this with a Alternatively, we could create (another) brand-new workshop repository |
+1 to workshop, but with one caveat. I actually mentioned this issue to my wife (technologically literate non-coder - i.e., potential target audience), and she pointed out that "bootcamp" implies that the two days will be fast paced and require hard work/participation from attendees, while workshop is more ambiguous but implies a less intensive experience. So still in favor of the switch, but we might want to consider adjusting our branding/advertising to more explicitly use active words like exercise-based, fast paced, intensive, crash course, jump start, etc. |
That's a good point, @jkitzes -- thanks for bringing it up and doing a one-person focus group. :) |
Following Amy Brown's [1]: > We borrowed the "bootcamp" terminology from Hacker Within and also > various fitness training camps, but as we branch out into parts of > the world with a more violent recent history I'm less comfortable > with the term. The consensus on that issue was to change back to our old 'workshop' terminology. The swcarpentry/bc repository hasn't made the shift yet, but there's no reason I can't embrace the future here ;). [1]: swcarpentry#240
~~~ $ for file in $(grep -r -l 'bootcamp' .); do sed -i 's/bootcamp/workshop/g' $file; done $ for file in $(grep -r -l 'boot camp' .); do sed -i 's/boot camp/workshop/g' $file; done ~~~ and others minors changes. Close swcarpentry#240.
We borrowed the "bootcamp" terminology from Hacker Within and also various fitness training camps, but as we branch out into parts of the world with a more violent recent history I'm less comfortable with the term.
Setting aside discussion of whether this is a valid concern, I'm looking for alternatives to the word. Please comment with your suggestions, and if you are fluent in any other languages let us know what you call a Software-Carpentry-type course in your other language(s).
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