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Clarify the English text of the "on-site" warning #5353

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MattRC7 opened this issue Nov 3, 2023 · 3 comments
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Clarify the English text of the "on-site" warning #5353

MattRC7 opened this issue Nov 3, 2023 · 3 comments

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@MattRC7
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MattRC7 commented Nov 3, 2023

Use case
I am brand new to contributing to OpenStreetMap (hi! 👋). Today I drove to pick up a pizza and noticed the store wasn't marked. I wanted to get home quick while the Pizza was hot. When I got back I tried to add the Store and encountered this warning:

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Alt: Are you sure checked this on-site? Only information that was found on a survey should be entered.

As a total newbie, I have no idea what qualifies as a "survey," so I panicked and discarded my contribution. I checked the StreetComplete FAQ and did not find an answer.

Proposed Solution

I think there are a couple ways to help newbies like myself:

  • If survey just means "in-person" add the words "in-person" somewhere in the message. Maybe even replace "survey" with "in-person".
  • Add a note in the warning to see the FAQ for more info, and update the FAQ to explain what the warning means.

Side Note

This is a wonderful app and I appreciate all your hard work!

@mnalis
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mnalis commented Nov 6, 2023

Thanks for your feedback @MattRC7! While the term "survey" might seem clear to people (like myself) who have been doing maps for some time (obXKCD!), it is very valuable to get feedback from new users who have not (yet 😺) been "contaminated" with such knowledge.

Indeed, it seems like a hard word -- one just have to look at Survey and surveying on wikipedia, e.g.

Surveying or land surveying is the technique, profession, art, and science of determining the terrestrial two-dimensional or three-dimensional positions of points and the distances and angles between them
[...]
Surveyors work with elements of geodesy, geometry, trigonometry, regression analysis, physics, engineering, metrology, programming languages, and the law. They use equipment, such as total stations, robotic total stations, theodolites, GNSS receivers, retroreflectors, 3D scanners, LiDAR sensors, radios, inclinometer, handheld tablets, optical and digital levels, subsurface locators, drones, GIS, and surveying software

If I were not dabbling in that field for some time, I'd be thoroughly confused too whether it applied to me (as a random person with smartphone and StreetComplete app), or not!


Would Only information that was found in-person should be entered. be clearer, @MattRC7?

Or (especially from native English speakers), any corrections / better suggestions?

@westnordost westnordost added the feedback required more info is needed, issue will be likely closed if it is not provided label Nov 9, 2023
@MattRC7
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MattRC7 commented Nov 13, 2023

Sorry for the response delay, GH notifications were disabled on my phone for some reason.

I think your suggestion is nearly spot-on! I'd just make one small tweak:

Only information that was verified in-person should be entered.

I think "verified" (or alternatively "confirmed") sufficiently gets the point across that an in-person survey occurred at some point, regardless of whether you knew the information beforehand, and regardless of whether you entered the data after you left.

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mnalis commented Nov 13, 2023

Thanks @MattRC7, Only information that was verified in-person should be entered. indeed sounds better to me!

@westnordost westnordost added enhancement and removed feedback required more info is needed, issue will be likely closed if it is not provided labels Nov 14, 2023
matkoniecz pushed a commit to matkoniecz/Zazolc that referenced this issue Nov 14, 2023
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