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Enabling SSL can double RSS due to Netty off-heap arenas #42224
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/cc @cescoffier (netty), @jponge (netty) |
This issue wasn't accurate enough: eclipse-vertx/vert.x#5292 (comment) describe a non-SSL case where the pooled allocators can still be duplicated - although it shouldn't be used, making the cost to just be in the empty arenas/data structures of the allocator. |
Ping for @mabartos : keycloak uses the JDK SSL engine by default? Is it a common use for users? |
@franz1981 For the server, we just rely on Quarkus internals with regards to TLS. For other stuff (HTTP client, remote Infinispan,...) we use SSL context obtained from JDK. AFAIK there is no explicit usage of Perhaps @pedroigor or @vmuzikar might have more information if necessary. |
which means the JDK SSL engine sadly .-. |
@franz1981 What's the status here? I'm planning to introduce Vert.x 4.5.11 next week. |
@cescoffier we need to:
I suggest the latter (sys property) to always be enabled, since is lower risk to me, while the former, we have to decide. |
I'm wondering if this would work in native. In native, we could also make the decision at build time (during the compilation)—@zakkak WDYT? |
I believe we can do it (both at build time or run time if needed).
I think this is not specific to this case. We have had this question before regarding things that can be configured through system properties. The trade off being that if we do things at build time we increase the chances of generating more optimized code, while doing thing at run time allows us to be more JVM-like. Note however that we have not measured the actual performance impact of the two options. |
@jponge FYI. |
@franz1981 Any progress on this? |
The changes are already in Quarkus but requires an additional PR to enable 2 properties |
@mabartos if I provide a Quarkus branch with the required changes do you have any chances to try it? |
@franz1981 Probably yes... The best would be to have some Quarkus snapshot release to have all artifacts available online to leverage our Keycloak benchmark. |
That's up to @cescoffier and @gsmet if they want my changes (which can be disabled by default) in a snapshot release |
Do you have the link to the PRs? |
If the PR is not too invasive and something we want to merge... except if something goes very wrong in the benchmarks, I'm fine merging so that you can trigger your benchmarks. If it's experimental code not so much :). |
@gsmet let me send it quickly so can be reviewed |
@mabartos Do you use reactive SQL clients too? or gRPC? |
This is due to eclipse-vertx/vert.x#5168 (comment)
and will be "fixed" via eclipse-vertx/vert.x#5262
TLDR: enabling SSL make Vertx to use a custom off-heap pooled allocator for I/O (e.g. while reading or copying heap to off-heap to send data on the wire), but Jackson (and other quarkus parts) uses the Netty default one, making both to be resident in memory and doubling the required capacity.
This is the Jackson one:
quarkus/independent-projects/vertx-utils/src/main/java/io/quarkus/vertx/utils/AppendBuffer.java
Line 136 in 261cc87
A complete fix should be able to correctly pass the allocator associated to the vertx connection to the above append buffer, saving to directly reference it.
A simple(r) and less invasive fix, instead, should change the above code to use the vertx pooled allocator, instead, given that via eclipse-vertx/vert.x#5262 it should be the default used.
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