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| # Node Foundation TSC Meeting 2015-07-08 | ||
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| ## Links | ||
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| * **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/64 | ||
| * **Original Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HuRtu5ZP7ZlrIp756EbZYo4I26v2RY-7CY1pr_3y1nY | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests prior to meeting. | ||
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| ### nodejs/io.js | ||
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| * Default Unhandled Rejection Detection Behavior [#830](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/830) | ||
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| ### joyent/node | ||
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| * Adding a "mentor-available" label [#25618](https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/25618) | ||
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| ## Minutes | ||
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| ### Present | ||
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| * Mikeal Rogers | ||
| * Colin Ihrig (TSC) | ||
| * Ben Noordhuis (TSC) | ||
| * James Snell (TSC) | ||
| * Fedor Indutny (TSC) | ||
| * Bert Belder (TSC) | ||
| * Michael Dawson (TSC) | ||
| * Steven R Loomis (TSC) | ||
| * Alexis Campailla (TSC) | ||
| * Jeremiah Senkpiel (TSC) | ||
| * Julien Gilli (TSC) | ||
| * Chris Dickinson (TSC) | ||
| * Shigeki Ohtsu (TSC) | ||
| * Trevor Norris (TSC) | ||
| * Domenic Denicola | ||
| * Brian White (TSC) | ||
| * Rod Vagg (TSC) | ||
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| ### Review of the previous meeting | ||
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| * Policy for PR blocking? [#2078](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/2078) | ||
| - Resolution was to deal with it on a case-by-case basis for now. | ||
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| * Internationalization WG (Steven) | ||
| - Steven Loomis is going to kick off the working group. | ||
| - Steven: no further responses on the github issue. | ||
| - James: just need to get started | ||
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| * lts: strawman LTS cycle [lts#13](https://github.com/nodejs/LTS/pull/13) / Proposal: Release Process [#1997](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1997) | ||
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| ### Standup: | ||
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| * Mikeal Rogers: wrote a new confrence call tool for us that uses Twillio | ||
| * Colin Ihrig: Not much, reviewing PRs, triaging issues. | ||
| * Ben Noordhuis: reviewed a lot of PRs, upgraded v8 in `next` and `next+1`. | ||
| * James Snell: Working on the LTS Proposal, triaging issues in joyent/node, investigating stuff for the upcoming openssl fix. | ||
| * Fedor Indutny: fixed node after v8 upgrade. Exposed critical issues. | ||
| * Bert Belder: Not much code, had conversations with Mike Dolan and James Snell about the foundation and organizational issues. Working through a laundry list of libuv PRs blocking the next release. | ||
| * Michael Dawson: Working on getting PowerPC to build on io.js, tested the security fix from last week, joyent/node triage. | ||
| * Steven R Loomis: Worked a bit on the Intl WG, not much else. | ||
| * Alexis Campailla: converged CI, almost done. Dealing with windows installer issues. Expect converged CI to work in a week. | ||
| * Jeremiah Senkpiel: General triaging and reviewing, helped do the release last friday. `_unrefActive` with optimizations with heap timers. At CascadiaJS the next of the week to get people’s feedback. | ||
| * Julien Gilli: Released 0.12.6 last week, working on setting up other people to do joyent/node releases, joyent/node issue triage | ||
| * Chris Dickinson: Working on docs more, have a new tool for docs to make sure the links are correct in a tree of docs, started a collaborator check-in on the io.js issue tracker, hopefully will be weekly. | ||
| Jeremiah: what is that doctool? | ||
| Chris: “count-docula”, a MDAST-based tool to verify correctness of the docs. | ||
| * Shigeki Ohtsu: Not much on io.js, preparing to update OpenSSL tonight to get the OpenSSL security fix out. | ||
| * Trevor Norris: Investigating the UTF8 decoder security issue and working on the fix. Reviewing PRs and being involved in the W3C Web Assembly working group. | ||
| * Domenic Denicola: Not much on io.js, travelling, stress testing the vm module. | ||
| * Brian White: Triaging issues, working on the javascript http parser more & benchmarking it. | ||
| * Rod Vagg: We should discuss the LTS proposal again since there was lots of work done on that. Working on lots, including the security fix from last friday (writing up a post-mortem for it), getting external people involved to review our security processes. | ||
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| ### Default Unhandled Rejection Detection Behavior [#830](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/830) | ||
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| * Domenic: let’s say there was a magic way to detect when an error in an err-back style callback was not handled, what would we do? Print to stderr? | ||
| * Bert: We do have a history of printing things to stderr. We should follow browser semantics if we can, in favor of primnting a warning but nothing else. | ||
| * Discussion about the technicalities of handling unhandledRejections | ||
| * Rod: not sure we should do anything since detecting this is somewhat arbitrary. | ||
| * Domenic: there is a proposal for this that chrome implements behind a flag that comes close to how the unhandledRejection hook in node works | ||
| * Discussion about the technicalities of having a better hook for printing a warning after garbage collection of an unhandled rejection. | ||
| * See this thread for background detail of options in v8: https://code.google.com/p/v8/issues/detail?id=3093#c1 | ||
| * Action: nothing now, maybe if v8 adds a hook for when rejections get garbage collected. | ||
| * Domenic: looking at v8, it seems to have most of the hooks, so this may be possible soon. | ||
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| ### Adding a "mentor-available" label [#25618](https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/25618) | ||
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| * Folks are interested in contributing to larger tasks, need mentors to help them understand the process. Should we add a label? | ||
| * Julien: Many people are interested in making “deeper” contributions, but they need a mentor. Let people add a mentor-available tag so they can locate these. | ||
| * … part of the discussion missing here ... | ||
| * Resolution: let’s try it, one such label has already been added. | ||
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| ### Having more people managing releases for Node.js v0.10.x and v0.12.x | ||
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| * Julien: I will have less time to do releases; it needs to become more of a team effort. | ||
| * Alexis: in the long term this will be a responsibility of the build team. | ||
| * Julien: unsure how responsibilities will be decided. LTS will need to sign off and build will need to produce the release. | ||
| * Jeremiah: the iojs/current releases are already a group effort. It’s just that the “long-term” v0.10/v0.12 releases fall on few individuals now. | ||
| * Julien: it’s a bit too much to handle for one person. Also people are sometimes unavailable or on vacation. Would like to have a group of about four people. | ||
| * Ben: more contributors recently signed up. I think Sam Roberts might be interested. | ||
| * Julien: would like to have a release management team. | ||
| * Chris: iojs has had the release manager propose other release managers. Open an issue for this. | ||
| * Resolved as such. | ||
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| ### lts: LTS Proposal https://github.com/nodejs/LTS#proposed-lts)/ Proposal: Release Process [#1997](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1997) | ||
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| * James: when are we cutting over to the converged stream? Thinking of late august, first LTS release in October. Is this a good time? Most users won’t start migrating until next year because of the holidays. | ||
| * Julien: what are other projects doing, when do they release? | ||
| * James: looking it into it, some do it in fall. No clear pattern. | ||
| * Alexis: what is the benefit of being on a fixed release schedule? | ||
| * James: benefit is it makes planning easier. | ||
| * Trevor: coming from the enterprise side, not having a predictable release schedule isn’t useful. | ||
| * Steven: ICU and Unicode has announced that there will be a yearly release. It’s been helpful for planning. | ||
| * James: It also ties into our regular release schedule and merging next into master etc. The next-to-master merge defines when we can do an LTS release. This should happen at least twice a year. The LTS is cut just before a merge (major bump), so by the time a LTS is cut it should have been stable for half a year. | ||
| * James: please kick tires on this proposal, get feedback from the user communities you’re connected to wrt the frequency and release date. | ||
| * Rod: the TSC should consider the timeframe, and the requirement that there should be two next-to-master merge yearly. | ||
| * Trevor: how does this fit with a 6-week release schedule on master? | ||
| * James: depends on the schedule. | ||
| * Domenic: I don’t see the problem. Just take a 6 months old release and turn it into an LTS. | ||
| * Rod/James/Trevor: because version numbers. The LTS version number needs to be a continuation of a release version. | ||
| * Rod: fixed date, or part of the month. | ||
| * Chris, Rod: get feedback, comment on the issue | ||
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| ### Next Meeting | ||
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| July 15th 2015 |