[BUG] Spell Points are deducted even if Activity is set to Not consume Spell Slots

[BlackOtter123]

In D&D5e 4.1.2, spells can use different Activities for individual parts of the spell. Activities can be set to not consume any Spell Slots.
However, while "Consume Spell Slot" toggle is off, the spell points are still consumed normally. It is also impossible to manually toggle the spell point consumption off, because the prompt is disabled when that setting is off.

[misthero]

ok, but you can set it to recover spell points (the same amount that would be spent) using a negative value on item uses.

this is not really a bug but a missing feature, right now the activity is not implemented with the spell points module since if you want to use spell points with activities you can just create a custom item and use it as spell points without this module.

what is your use case? why you want a spell that doesn't consume slots nor spell points? can't you make it a cantrip?

[BlackOtter123]

That's a useful solution, but won't work with upscaling without additional tinkering I think.
In my usecase, I use spells such as Eyebite which use Concentration, but then allow for extra free activities while the spell is active (i.e. target a different creature, make ranged attacks with Crown of Stars etc). Those activities do not count as separate castings of that spell so they wouldn't consume spell slots/spell points. And it's useful to keep all the spell's effects as sub-activities that way. Sometimes they also have different effects than the main casting so using a Forward activity isn't a clean solution (it doubles the number of entries)

[TomChristoffer]

+1 I have also found use cases where this would be helpful.

[Torgaard]

Recently switched to DnDv4.2 and ya, can confirm. This one's kind of a bummer. Everything else works wonderfully with Spell Points, but in my 'magic heavy' version of the Forgotten Realms with lots o' fun magic items with little powers, this'll be a little tricky. A little 'More Information' to follow protocol with the tag on this issue: If I have an item where I add the 'Cast' Activity, in every scenario I've tried - even the one you suggested (using a negative value to refund a point) - I can't get it to work. If I setup the Activity in the magic item in the character's inventory to do the negative value, it just flatout doesn't seem to work. Tried a few variations, made sure players had change permissions for altering Spell Point value, etc.

I can't set it up in the spell itself (in the 'Save' Activity for example), because the spell itself would either be sitting in a Compendium or plopped into a folder in my Items section (in the World itself) - but of course if that's where it's sitting, you can't actually assign it to use 'Item Uses' at all, because it's not actually sitting IN a character sheet (ie it has no 'Items' to reference, cuz it's not sitting in a sheet with any Items). I even tried using the UUID of the 'Spell Points' Feature on the character sheet and pasted it into the 'Target' field for the spell sitting in my World (and not on the character sheet), but that didn't work.

While it's true, I could just basically not use the Spell Points module and just setup my own Spell Points item on the sheet and then use 'Item Uses' from that create item, ack - that would be shame. Your module is awesome! Love, love, love the little Spell Points progress bar, plus it would be a semi-big pain to manually have to setup every spell for everybody to deduct 'X' points (which yours so beautifully does auto-magically).

And thank you for the module and all the hard work you've put into it - you transformed our game, we've been using it since the first week you released it, and my players flipped.

[misthero]

If I have an item where I add the 'Cast' Activity, in every scenario I've tried - even the one you suggested (using a negative value to refund a point) - I can't get it to work. If I setup the Activity in the magic item in the character's inventory to do the negative value, it just flatout doesn't seem to work. Tried a few variations, made sure players had change permissions for altering Spell Point value, etc.

Hello, thankyou, and that's probably a bug, the item should consume/add to the spellpoints item if the activity is correctly configured. Probably there is a javascript error somewhere. I'll investigate this.

About disabling the spellpoints use from a spell with an activity that shoudn't use spellpoints (the original topic of this issue), I'm currently trying to understand how to implement that without breaking other functionalities.

[misthero]

this should be fixed in latest release, if you disable Consume Spell Slot also spellpoints won't be spent. a notice should appear in the activity consumption tab to remember that

[Torgaard]

Awesome! Many thanks from me and my players. Man; love the module, changed our game. 😁

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