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Return m.change_password.enabled=false if local database is disabled #9588

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Return m.change_password enabled:false if local database not used for authentication
Fixes: #9456

I had to remove a part of the test. Because I do not know how to create an access_token for an user who uses SSO.

What is the best config switch for this situation? password_config.enabled or password_config.localdb_enabled?

async def set_password(
self,
user_id: str,
password_hash: str,
logout_devices: bool,
requester: Optional[Requester] = None,
) -> None:
if not self.hs.config.password_localdb_enabled:
raise SynapseError(403, "Password change disabled", errcode=Codes.FORBIDDEN)

set_password uses password_config.localdb_enabled

password_config:
# Uncomment to disable password login
#
#enabled: false
# Uncomment to disable authentication against the local password
# database. This is ignored if `enabled` is false, and is only useful
# if you have other password_providers.
#
#localdb_enabled: false

The documentation says that localdb_enabled is ignored if password_config.enabled is false. But I can not find the code where localdb_enabled becomes unset or set to false if localdb_enabled is false.

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clokep commented Mar 12, 2021

I wonder if we should also disable the server endpoint to change the password if no hash is currently set? This would avoid people logging in via SSO adding a password.

Again it is unclear to me whether we want to support that or not though. 😢

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dklimpel commented Mar 12, 2021

I wonder if we should also disable the server endpoint to change the password if no hash is currently set? This would avoid people logging in via SSO adding a password.

Again it is unclear to me whether we want to support that or not though. 😢

This exactly what _get_available_ui_auth_types does:

async def _get_available_ui_auth_types(self, user: UserID) -> Iterable[str]:
"""Get a list of the authentication types this user can use"""
ui_auth_types = set()
# if the HS supports password auth, and the user has a non-null password, we
# support password auth
if self._password_localdb_enabled and self._password_enabled:
lookupres = await self._find_user_id_and_pwd_hash(user.to_string())
if lookupres:
_, password_hash = lookupres
if password_hash:
ui_auth_types.add(LoginType.PASSWORD)

This is the state of this PR at the moment.

But than it is not possible to switch from SSO to password.
Only from passwort to SSO.
But it is more secure. To add a password is a little bit like creating a backdoor if your SSO is compromized.

@richvdh wrote in #synapse-dev:matrix.org

the answer to this is that, in the matrix.org usecase at least, we do want to allow people to add a password to their account even if they created that account with SSO

@clokep clokep changed the title Return m.change_password enabled:false if local database not used Return m.change_password.enabled=false if local database is disabled Mar 15, 2021
Returns:
Whether users on this server are allowed to change or set a password
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I don't think we need the _change_password property here, we can return self._password_enabled and self._password_localdb_enabled.

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Looks good! Thanks for fixing this!

@clokep clokep merged commit 8000cf1 into matrix-org:develop Mar 16, 2021
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Synapse 1.32.2 (2021-04-22)
===========================

This release includes a fix for a regression introduced in 1.32.0.

Bugfixes
--------

- Fix a regression in Synapse 1.32.0 and 1.32.1 which caused `LoggingContext` errors in plugins. ([\#9857](matrix-org/synapse#9857))


Synapse 1.32.1 (2021-04-21)
===========================

This release fixes [a regression](matrix-org/synapse#9853)
in Synapse 1.32.0 that caused connected Prometheus instances to become unstable.

However, as this release is still subject to the `LoggingContext` change in 1.32.0,
it is recommended to remain on or downgrade to 1.31.0.

Bugfixes
--------

- Fix a regression in Synapse 1.32.0 which caused Synapse to report large numbers of Prometheus time series, potentially overwhelming Prometheus instances. ([\#9854](matrix-org/synapse#9854))


Synapse 1.32.0 (2021-04-20)
===========================

**Note:** This release introduces [a regression](matrix-org/synapse#9853)
that can overwhelm connected Prometheus instances. This issue was not present in
1.32.0rc1. If affected, it is recommended to downgrade to 1.31.0 in the meantime, and
follow [these instructions](matrix-org/synapse#9854 (comment))
to clean up any excess writeahead logs.

**Note:** This release also mistakenly included a change that may affected Synapse
modules that import `synapse.logging.context.LoggingContext`, such as
[synapse-s3-storage-provider](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse-s3-storage-provider).
This will be fixed in a later Synapse version.

**Note:** This release requires Python 3.6+ and Postgres 9.6+ or SQLite 3.22+.

This release removes the deprecated `GET /_synapse/admin/v1/users/<user_id>` admin API. Please use the [v2 API](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/blob/develop/docs/admin_api/user_admin_api.rst#query-user-account) instead, which has improved capabilities.

This release requires Application Services to use type `m.login.application_service` when registering users via the `/_matrix/client/r0/register` endpoint to comply with the spec. Please ensure your Application Services are up to date.

If you are using the `packages.matrix.org` Debian repository for Synapse packages,
note that we have recently updated the expiry date on the gpg signing key. If you see an
error similar to `The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG F473DD4473365DE1`, you
will need to get a fresh copy of the keys. You can do so with:

```sh
sudo wget -O /usr/share/keyrings/matrix-org-archive-keyring.gpg https://packages.matrix.org/debian/matrix-org-archive-keyring.gpg
```

Bugfixes
--------

- Fix the log lines of nested logging contexts. Broke in 1.32.0rc1. ([\#9829](matrix-org/synapse#9829))


Synapse 1.32.0rc1 (2021-04-13)
==============================

Features
--------

- Add a Synapse module for routing presence updates between users. ([\#9491](matrix-org/synapse#9491))
- Add an admin API to manage ratelimit for a specific user. ([\#9648](matrix-org/synapse#9648))
- Include request information in structured logging output. ([\#9654](matrix-org/synapse#9654))
- Add `order_by` to the admin API `GET /_synapse/admin/v2/users`. Contributed by @dklimpel. ([\#9691](matrix-org/synapse#9691))
- Replace the `room_invite_state_types` configuration setting with `room_prejoin_state`. ([\#9700](matrix-org/synapse#9700))
- Add experimental support for [MSC3083](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#3083): restricting room access via group membership. ([\#9717](matrix-org/synapse#9717), [\#9735](matrix-org/synapse#9735))
- Update experimental support for Spaces: include `m.room.create` in the room state sent with room-invites. ([\#9710](matrix-org/synapse#9710))
- Synapse now requires Python 3.6 or later. It also requires Postgres 9.6 or later or SQLite 3.22 or later. ([\#9766](matrix-org/synapse#9766))


Bugfixes
--------

- Prevent `synapse_forward_extremities` and `synapse_excess_extremity_events` Prometheus metrics from initially reporting zero-values after startup. ([\#8926](matrix-org/synapse#8926))
- Fix recently added ratelimits to correctly honour the application service `rate_limited` flag. ([\#9711](matrix-org/synapse#9711))
- Fix longstanding bug which caused `duplicate key value violates unique constraint "remote_media_cache_thumbnails_media_origin_media_id_thumbna_key"` errors. ([\#9725](matrix-org/synapse#9725))
- Fix bug where sharded federation senders could get stuck repeatedly querying the DB in a loop, using lots of CPU. ([\#9770](matrix-org/synapse#9770))
- Fix duplicate logging of exceptions thrown during federation transaction processing. ([\#9780](matrix-org/synapse#9780))


Updates to the Docker image
---------------------------

- Move opencontainers labels to the final Docker image such that users can inspect them. ([\#9765](matrix-org/synapse#9765))


Improved Documentation
----------------------

- Make the `allowed_local_3pids` regex example in the sample config stricter. ([\#9719](matrix-org/synapse#9719))


Deprecations and Removals
-------------------------

- Remove old admin API `GET /_synapse/admin/v1/users/<user_id>`. ([\#9401](matrix-org/synapse#9401))
- Make `/_matrix/client/r0/register` expect a type of `m.login.application_service` when an Application Service registers a user, to align with [the relevant spec](https://spec.matrix.org/unstable/application-service-api/#server-admin-style-permissions). ([\#9548](matrix-org/synapse#9548))


Internal Changes
----------------

- Replace deprecated `imp` module with successor `importlib`. Contributed by Cristina Muñoz. ([\#9718](matrix-org/synapse#9718))
- Experiment with GitHub Actions for CI. ([\#9661](matrix-org/synapse#9661))
- Introduce flake8-bugbear to the test suite and fix some of its lint violations. ([\#9682](matrix-org/synapse#9682))
- Update `scripts-dev/complement.sh` to use a local checkout of Complement, allow running a subset of tests and have it use Synapse's Complement test blacklist. ([\#9685](matrix-org/synapse#9685))
- Improve Jaeger tracing for `to_device` messages. ([\#9686](matrix-org/synapse#9686))
- Add release helper script for automating part of the Synapse release process. ([\#9713](matrix-org/synapse#9713))
- Add type hints to expiring cache. ([\#9730](matrix-org/synapse#9730))
- Convert various testcases to `HomeserverTestCase`. ([\#9736](matrix-org/synapse#9736))
- Start linting mypy with `no_implicit_optional`. ([\#9742](matrix-org/synapse#9742))
- Add missing type hints to federation handler and server. ([\#9743](matrix-org/synapse#9743))
- Check that a `ConfigError` is raised, rather than simply `Exception`, when appropriate in homeserver config file generation tests. ([\#9753](matrix-org/synapse#9753))
- Fix incompatibility with `tox` 2.5. ([\#9769](matrix-org/synapse#9769))
- Enable Complement tests for [MSC2946](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#2946): Spaces Summary API. ([\#9771](matrix-org/synapse#9771))
- Use mock from the standard library instead of a separate package. ([\#9772](matrix-org/synapse#9772))
- Update Black configuration to target Python 3.6. ([\#9781](matrix-org/synapse#9781))
- Add option to skip unit tests when building Debian packages. ([\#9793](matrix-org/synapse#9793))


Synapse 1.31.0 (2021-04-06)
===========================

**Note:** As announced in v1.25.0, and in line with the deprecation policy for platform dependencies, this is the last release to support Python 3.5 and PostgreSQL 9.5. Future versions of Synapse will require Python 3.6+ and PostgreSQL 9.6+, as per our [deprecation policy](docs/deprecation_policy.md).

This is also the last release that the Synapse team will be publishing packages for Debian Stretch and Ubuntu Xenial.


Improved Documentation
----------------------

- Add a document describing the deprecation policy for platform dependencies. ([\#9723](matrix-org/synapse#9723))


Internal Changes
----------------

- Revert using `dmypy run` in lint script. ([\#9720](matrix-org/synapse#9720))
- Pin flake8-bugbear's version. ([\#9734](matrix-org/synapse#9734))


Synapse 1.31.0rc1 (2021-03-30)
==============================

Features
--------

- Add support to OpenID Connect login for requiring attributes on the `userinfo` response. Contributed by Hubbe King. ([\#9609](matrix-org/synapse#9609))
- Add initial experimental support for a "space summary" API. ([\#9643](matrix-org/synapse#9643), [\#9652](matrix-org/synapse#9652), [\#9653](matrix-org/synapse#9653))
- Add support for the busy presence state as described in [MSC3026](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#3026). ([\#9644](matrix-org/synapse#9644))
- Add support for credentials for proxy authentication in the `HTTPS_PROXY` environment variable. ([\#9657](matrix-org/synapse#9657))


Bugfixes
--------

- Fix a longstanding bug that could cause issues when editing a reply to a message. ([\#9585](matrix-org/synapse#9585))
- Fix the `/capabilities` endpoint to return `m.change_password` as disabled if the local password database is not used for authentication. Contributed by @dklimpel. ([\#9588](matrix-org/synapse#9588))
- Check if local passwords are enabled before setting them for the user. ([\#9636](matrix-org/synapse#9636))
- Fix a bug where federation sending can stall due to `concurrent access` database exceptions when it falls behind. ([\#9639](matrix-org/synapse#9639))
- Fix a bug introduced in Synapse 1.30.1 which meant the suggested `pip` incantation to install an updated `cryptography` was incorrect. ([\#9699](matrix-org/synapse#9699))


Updates to the Docker image
---------------------------

- Speed up Docker builds and make it nicer to test against Complement while developing (install all dependencies before copying the project). ([\#9610](matrix-org/synapse#9610))
- Include [opencontainers labels](https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/blob/master/annotations.md#pre-defined-annotation-keys) in the Docker image. ([\#9612](matrix-org/synapse#9612))


Improved Documentation
----------------------

- Clarify that `register_new_matrix_user` is present also when installed via non-pip package. ([\#9074](matrix-org/synapse#9074))
- Update source install documentation to mention platform prerequisites before the source install steps. ([\#9667](matrix-org/synapse#9667))
- Improve worker documentation for fallback/web auth endpoints. ([\#9679](matrix-org/synapse#9679))
- Update the sample configuration for OIDC authentication. ([\#9695](matrix-org/synapse#9695))


Internal Changes
----------------

- Preparatory steps for removing redundant `outlier` data from `event_json.internal_metadata` column. ([\#9411](matrix-org/synapse#9411))
- Add type hints to the caching module. ([\#9442](matrix-org/synapse#9442))
- Introduce flake8-bugbear to the test suite and fix some of its lint violations. ([\#9499](matrix-org/synapse#9499), [\#9659](matrix-org/synapse#9659))
- Add additional type hints to the Homeserver object. ([\#9631](matrix-org/synapse#9631), [\#9638](matrix-org/synapse#9638), [\#9675](matrix-org/synapse#9675), [\#9681](matrix-org/synapse#9681))
- Only save remote cross-signing and device keys if they're different from the current ones. ([\#9634](matrix-org/synapse#9634))
- Rename storage function to fix spelling and not conflict with another function's name. ([\#9637](matrix-org/synapse#9637))
- Improve performance of federation catch up by sending the latest events in the room to the remote, rather than just the last event sent by the local server. ([\#9640](matrix-org/synapse#9640), [\#9664](matrix-org/synapse#9664))
- In the `federation_client` commandline client, stop automatically adding the URL prefix, so that servlets on other prefixes can be tested. ([\#9645](matrix-org/synapse#9645))
- In the `federation_client` commandline client, handle inline `signing_key`s in `homeserver.yaml`. ([\#9647](matrix-org/synapse#9647))
- Fixed some antipattern issues to improve code quality. ([\#9649](matrix-org/synapse#9649))
- Add a storage method for pulling all current user presence state from the database. ([\#9650](matrix-org/synapse#9650))
- Import `HomeServer` from the proper module. ([\#9665](matrix-org/synapse#9665))
- Increase default join ratelimiting burst rate. ([\#9674](matrix-org/synapse#9674))
- Add type hints to third party event rules and visibility modules. ([\#9676](matrix-org/synapse#9676))
- Bump mypy-zope to 0.2.13 to fix "Cannot determine consistent method resolution order (MRO)" errors when running mypy a second time. ([\#9678](matrix-org/synapse#9678))
- Use interpreter from `$PATH` via `/usr/bin/env` instead of absolute paths in various scripts. ([\#9689](matrix-org/synapse#9689))
- Make it possible to use `dmypy`. ([\#9692](matrix-org/synapse#9692))
- Suppress "CryptographyDeprecationWarning: int_from_bytes is deprecated". ([\#9698](matrix-org/synapse#9698))
- Use `dmypy run` in lint script for improved performance in type-checking while developing. ([\#9701](matrix-org/synapse#9701))
- Fix undetected mypy error when using Python 3.6. ([\#9703](matrix-org/synapse#9703))
- Fix type-checking CI on develop. ([\#9709](matrix-org/synapse#9709))


Synapse 1.30.1 (2021-03-26)
===========================

This release is identical to Synapse 1.30.0, with the exception of explicitly
setting a minimum version of Python's Cryptography library to ensure that users
of Synapse are protected from the recent [OpenSSL security advisories](https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2021-March/000198.html),
especially CVE-2021-3449.

Note that Cryptography defaults to bundling its own statically linked copy of
OpenSSL, which means that you may not be protected by your operating system's
security updates.

It's also worth noting that Cryptography no longer supports Python 3.5, so
admins deploying to older environments may not be protected against this or
future vulnerabilities. Synapse will be dropping support for Python 3.5 at the
end of March.


Updates to the Docker image
---------------------------

- Ensure that the docker container has up to date versions of openssl. ([\#9697](matrix-org/synapse#9697))


Internal Changes
----------------

- Enforce that `cryptography` dependency is up to date to ensure it has the most recent openssl patches. ([\#9697](matrix-org/synapse#9697))


Synapse 1.30.0 (2021-03-22)
===========================

Note that this release deprecates the ability for appservices to
call `POST /_matrix/client/r0/register`  without the body parameter `type`. Appservice
developers should use a `type` value of `m.login.application_service` as
per [the spec](https://matrix.org/docs/spec/application_service/r0.1.2#server-admin-style-permissions).
In future releases, calling this endpoint with an access token - but without a `m.login.application_service`
type - will fail.


No significant changes.


Synapse 1.30.0rc1 (2021-03-16)
==============================

Features
--------

- Add prometheus metrics for number of users successfully registering and logging in. ([\#9510](matrix-org/synapse#9510), [\#9511](matrix-org/synapse#9511), [\#9573](matrix-org/synapse#9573))
- Add `synapse_federation_last_sent_pdu_time` and `synapse_federation_last_received_pdu_time` prometheus metrics, which monitor federation delays by reporting the timestamps of messages sent and received to a set of remote servers. ([\#9540](matrix-org/synapse#9540))
- Add support for generating JSON Web Tokens dynamically for use as OIDC client secrets. ([\#9549](matrix-org/synapse#9549))
- Optimise handling of incomplete room history for incoming federation. ([\#9601](matrix-org/synapse#9601))
- Finalise support for allowing clients to pick an SSO Identity Provider ([MSC2858](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#2858)). ([\#9617](matrix-org/synapse#9617))
- Tell spam checker modules about the SSO IdP a user registered through if one was used. ([\#9626](matrix-org/synapse#9626))


Bugfixes
--------

- Fix long-standing bug when generating thumbnails for some images with transparency: `TypeError: cannot unpack non-iterable int object`. ([\#9473](matrix-org/synapse#9473))
- Purge chain cover indexes for events that were purged prior to Synapse v1.29.0. ([\#9542](matrix-org/synapse#9542), [\#9583](matrix-org/synapse#9583))
- Fix bug where federation requests were not correctly retried on 5xx responses. ([\#9567](matrix-org/synapse#9567))
- Fix re-activating an account via the admin API when local passwords are disabled. ([\#9587](matrix-org/synapse#9587))
- Fix a bug introduced in Synapse 1.20 which caused incoming federation transactions to stack up, causing slow recovery from outages. ([\#9597](matrix-org/synapse#9597))
- Fix a bug introduced in v1.28.0 where the OpenID Connect callback endpoint could error with a `MacaroonInitException`. ([\#9620](matrix-org/synapse#9620))
- Fix Internal Server Error on `GET /_synapse/client/saml2/authn_response` request. ([\#9623](matrix-org/synapse#9623))


Updates to the Docker image
---------------------------

- Make use of an improved malloc implementation (`jemalloc`) in the docker image. ([\#8553](matrix-org/synapse#8553))


Improved Documentation
----------------------

- Add relayd entry to reverse proxy example configurations. ([\#9508](matrix-org/synapse#9508))
- Improve the SAML2 upgrade notes for 1.27.0. ([\#9550](matrix-org/synapse#9550))
- Link to the "List user's media" admin API from the media admin API docs. ([\#9571](matrix-org/synapse#9571))
- Clarify the spam checker modules documentation example to mention that `parse_config` is a required method. ([\#9580](matrix-org/synapse#9580))
- Clarify the sample configuration for `stats` settings. ([\#9604](matrix-org/synapse#9604))


Deprecations and Removals
-------------------------

- The `synapse_federation_last_sent_pdu_age` and `synapse_federation_last_received_pdu_age` prometheus metrics have been removed. They are replaced by `synapse_federation_last_sent_pdu_time` and `synapse_federation_last_received_pdu_time`. ([\#9540](matrix-org/synapse#9540))
- Registering an Application Service user without using the `m.login.application_service` login type will be unsupported in an upcoming Synapse release. ([\#9559](matrix-org/synapse#9559))


Internal Changes
----------------

- Add tests to ResponseCache. ([\#9458](matrix-org/synapse#9458))
- Add type hints to purge room and server notice admin API. ([\#9520](matrix-org/synapse#9520))
- Add extra logging to ObservableDeferred when callbacks throw exceptions. ([\#9523](matrix-org/synapse#9523))
- Fix incorrect type hints. ([\#9528](matrix-org/synapse#9528), [\#9543](matrix-org/synapse#9543), [\#9591](matrix-org/synapse#9591), [\#9608](matrix-org/synapse#9608), [\#9618](matrix-org/synapse#9618))
- Add an additional test for purging a room. ([\#9541](matrix-org/synapse#9541))
- Add a `.git-blame-ignore-revs` file with the hashes of auto-formatting. ([\#9560](matrix-org/synapse#9560))
- Increase the threshold before which outbound federation to a server goes into "catch up" mode, which is expensive for the remote server to handle. ([\#9561](matrix-org/synapse#9561))
- Fix spurious errors reported by the `config-lint.sh` script. ([\#9562](matrix-org/synapse#9562))
- Fix type hints and tests for BlacklistingAgentWrapper and BlacklistingReactorWrapper. ([\#9563](matrix-org/synapse#9563))
- Do not have mypy ignore type hints from unpaddedbase64. ([\#9568](matrix-org/synapse#9568))
- Improve efficiency of calculating the auth chain in large rooms. ([\#9576](matrix-org/synapse#9576))
- Convert `synapse.types.Requester` to an `attrs` class. ([\#9586](matrix-org/synapse#9586))
- Add logging for redis connection setup. ([\#9590](matrix-org/synapse#9590))
- Improve logging when processing incoming transactions. ([\#9596](matrix-org/synapse#9596))
- Remove unused `stats.retention` setting, and emit a warning if stats are disabled. ([\#9604](matrix-org/synapse#9604))
- Prevent attempting to bundle aggregations for state events in /context APIs. ([\#9619](matrix-org/synapse#9619))
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xrayn commented Apr 30, 2021

IMO it would have been better to introduce a new configuration option for a possible password change and not make this solely dependent from the setting localdb_enabled. Ideal would be an option where one can disable password changes, but can still use the local db for authentication.

Because now, it is no longer possible to mix local users and a SSO (or LDAP, ...).

This might not be a concern for many people, but actually one can no longer add local users for testing or local users for bots an alike. For small deployments this is no concern at all, but for bigger deployments, adding users to the identity management system of a company or institution might be complicated (or nearly impossible) in terms of operational procedures.

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clokep commented Apr 30, 2021

@xrayn This code is pretty nuanced and I believe there could be bugs when having both local and SSO passwords, if you're seeing one please file a separate issue with details of your setup.

I don't see how this change would preclude having both local users and SSO (or LDAP) users.

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xrayn commented Apr 30, 2021

I don't see how this change would preclude having both local users and SSO (or LDAP) users.

Perhaps this is a misunderstanding, but I assume that when setting localdb_enabled to false then a user can no longer login with credentials from the localdb right?

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clokep commented May 3, 2021

I don't see how this change would preclude having both local users and SSO (or LDAP) users.

Perhaps this is a misunderstanding, but I assume that when setting localdb_enabled to false then a user can no longer login with credentials from the localdb right?

Yes, that's the point of that setting -- it disables the local database. If you don't have a local database then there's no way for a user to change their password, which this PR fixes.

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