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should TechLeads be mandatory (vs not combo with Chair) #5890

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parispittman opened this issue Jul 14, 2021 · 6 comments
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should TechLeads be mandatory (vs not combo with Chair) #5890

parispittman opened this issue Jul 14, 2021 · 6 comments
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parispittman commented Jul 14, 2021

Broken down from issue #5855

Current state/knowns:

  • 1 Chair is required for a SIG per sig-governance.md
  • only two roles that are identified in sig-governance.md is TL and Chair
  • 11 SIGs have explicit entries for TLs in sigs.yaml (combo=chair and TL):
    • Scale
    • Storage
    • Windows
    • Cluster life
    • ContribEx
    • Docs
    • Instrumentation
    • Release
    • ApiM - 1 chair, 1 TL, 1 combo
    • Auth - 2 chairs, 2 TLs, 1 combo
    • Cli - 2 chairs, 1 TL, 1 combo

Why:

  • There is a lot of work just for a chair to do "Chairship is not about being an expert on the technical details. It's about organizing the SIG." (current chair)
  • operational and community work gets neglected (example: Responsiveness of SIG Chairs needs improvement #4289) which helps build sustainabilty and meet governance
  • Helps separate technical decisions from running a meeting (moderation vs ownership/technical decision maker)
  • helps with contributor ladder
  • people conflate chair and tech lead
  • [will add more]

Notes

  • will collect feedback and discussion here
@parispittman parispittman added the committee/steering Denotes an issue or PR intended to be handled by the steering committee. label Jul 14, 2021
@parispittman parispittman changed the title should TLs be mandatory (vs not combo with Chair) should TechLeads be mandatory (vs not combo with Chair) Jul 14, 2021
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/assign

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Problems I have heard -> my recommended solution

  • Lack of documentation -> document better / in better places
  • Lack of succession planning -> have deputy chairs / TLs / subproject owners
  • Lack of recognition for accomplishments -> OWNERs files, subproject owners, deputy roles
  • Lack of formal roles within a SIG to reward/encourage contributors -> OWNERs files, subproject owners, deputy roles

I have not heard of any problem for which "require every SIG to have TLs" sounds like it could be a solution.

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/lifecycle frozen

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TLs were split in this PR: #7160

Going to go ahead and close :)

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@mrbobbytables: Closing this issue.

In response to this:

TLs were split in this PR: #7160

Going to go ahead and close :)

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