Add getting started with python in HEP link to AS page

[matthewfeickert]

On IRIS-HEP Slack @gordonwatts noted

I just searched for "python using it for HEP analysis at the LHC" - one of the top hits I got back was our iris-hep analysis systems page. Perhaps we might add at the top of that page [a] "go here to get started with python in HEP" link?

This is a very good idea and something should get added. I would assume that this would be Scikit-HEP related given the strong overlap, but I'm interested if @klieret already has suggestions on existing pages that are training related that would make sense as well.

[klieret]

We could point to the scikit-hep tutorial that we already have (and which links to a lot more resources)

[davidlange6]

This doesn't strike me as a very welcoming landing page... maybe something with a bigger picture view?

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[matthewfeickert]

This doesn't strike me as a very welcoming landing page... maybe something with a bigger picture view?

@davidlange6 do you have something particular in mind? If not, probably having something linked is better than nothing.

Additional feedback on getting something better is obviously very welcome.

[davidlange6]

I don't. No..but presumably one wants to welcome both those experienced with python and beginners (landing on a tutorial definitely targets beginners On Apr 29, 2023 12:37 AM, Matthew Feickert ***@***.***> wrote: This doesn't strike me as a very welcoming landing page... maybe something with a bigger picture view? @davidlange6<https://github.com/davidlange6> do you have something particular in mind? If not, probably having something linked is better than nothing. Feedback on getting something better is obviously very welcome. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1788 (comment)>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABGPFQ3HHBEVVHI23EWZVNLXDQIP3ANCNFSM6AAAAAAXPNJRHQ>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[matthewfeickert]

No..but presumably one wants to welcome both those experienced with python and beginners (landing on a tutorial definitely targets beginners)

Hm, I think we might be talking about two different kinds of pages. From @gordonwatts's message it seemed to me that a

go here to get started with python in HEP

page assumes that the person is a beginner with using the Pythonic HEP ecosystem (if they are already experienced, then they know about the existence of Scikit-HEP and the IRIS-HEP projects and wouldn't be using this type of search terminology). If users want an introduction to Python that's something else altogether and I don't think we need to be responsible for directing people to that information.

The Scikit-HEP Tutorial was written by @jpivarski originally and from my (albeit biased) take on reading through it it assumes that you're already familiar with programming in Python (though it does have a "How much Python do we need to know?" intro section) but that you want a first guided tour of common HEP operations in the Scikit-HEP ecosystem.

A landing page that is about advanced topics or demonstrators of full Pythonic workflows in HEP is fine, but seems to be different in scope. A lot of these topics are already covered by the AGC which thanks to @ekauffma and @alexander-held now has its own (growing) docs. I guess the question is then "Is it clear to the advanced user that these resources already exist or do they need help finding them?".