v4.0.0 missing static binaries in Release page

[nunix]

Is this a BUG REPORT or FEATURE REQUEST? (leave only one on its own line)

/kind bug

Description

The static binaries are missing from the Release page, however it's mentioned in the Readme they should be available.

Steps to reproduce the issue:

1. Only 2 assets are on the Release page (instead of 7 for 3.4.4)

Describe the results you received:
Only source code is available to download.

Describe the results you expected:
The static binaries for Linux/MacOS/Windows should be listed

[mheon]

I was told not to build them yet by @baude - I'll defer explanation as to why to him

[nunix]

@mheon thanks a lot for your prompt reply (on a Sunday 😄 ). It's OK if there's short delay, however the Readme should maybe not mention that the static binaries are available then (IMO)

[baude]

@nunix The reason why is they are unusable at this point unless the backend is Linux. As with podman 3, podman3 remote clients must connect to podman3 backends. Podman4 must connect with Podman4 backends. Given that FCOS does not ship Podman4 yet, the mac client is not much help (unless connecting to you your Linux backend). You could also compile the client as well. They can be cross-compiled if you like.

Bottom line, we should have a better answer mid-werrk.

[nunix]

@baude thank you for the detailed answer, totally understandable. I will compile the msi as I did for the RC4 as I want to showcase the new podman machine with the WSL2 backend.

Again, my point was more the misalignment between the repo Readme stating the static binaries were already available and not finding them on release page. But sincerely all good, this case for me can be closed, or kept open just to avoid duplicates (if any) until the binaries are available.

Thanks again, and have a great rest of Sunday 😄

[afbjorklund]

When I run the release version, the client says "4.0.0-dev" and the server says "4.0.0-rc5"

https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/tag/v4.0.0

Client:       Podman Engine
Version:      4.0.0-dev
API Version:  4.0.0-dev

Server:       Podman Engine
Version:      4.0.0-rc5
API Version:  4.0.0-rc5

But it doesn't seem to be using any podman3 backend, even if it is based on Fedora 35 ?

var Version = semver.MustParse("4.0.0-dev")

Fedora CoreOS 35.20220216.dev.0

podman-4.0.0-0.7.rc5.fc35.x86_64

[mheon]

I think the server is still waiting for packages to go stable so we can update the VM images. The client is concerning, though.

[afbjorklund]

I think it accidentally tagged the commit before the version bump...

[mheon]

Uh-oh. You are entirely correct.

I can recreate the tag from the correct commit, but that could confuse things?

[afbjorklund]

It happens...

I guess it will be fixed in 4.0.1, and it doesn't have much to do with the static podman-remote binaries.

[afbjorklund]

@mheon this also meant that Podman 4.0.0 still uses the 3.3.1 API (not 4.0.0 API)

[mheon]

Yep, we realized that yesterday. Current plan is to cut a 4.0.1 tomorrow, to give a bit of time for critical issues to emerge (if they're going to).

[gonzalocasas]

Perhaps it is obvious, but is not only in the readme. The download link for Windows on the Getting started page of the website also ends up in 404.

[afbjorklund]

I don't think a new issue for "v4.0.1 is also missing static binaries in Release page" would help ?

https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/tag/v4.0.0

https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/tag/v4.0.1

Probably people should just be patient and wait for 4.1, and continue to run 3.4 in the meantime... 🤷

https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/tag/v3.4.2 (latest deb package on Kubic)

https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/tag/v3.4.4 (latest podman-remote static)

[fjorgemota]

I don't think a new issue for "v4.0.1 is also missing static binaries in Release page" would help ?

I don't think so, but I think it honestly would help if this was clearly announced both on the release notes and on the README of the project, just to set expectations correctly. and avoid these sorts of issues being opened..

[afbjorklund]

I think static builds for podman-remote (client) were supposed to be there, but not for podman (server).

• Static binary build fails #13259

[fjorgemota]

I think static builds for podman-remote (client) were supposed to be there, but not for podman (server).

Nope, like @baude explained in a comment on this same issue here, podman-remote (the client) depends on the podman (server), and FCOS (Fedora CoreOS, the distro that's used on the virtual machine that podman-remote manages) wasn't updated yet to v4.0.

IMHO what could be released is the podman (server) versions for every distro, but at least on Ubuntu-side like #13302 explains the Kubic repository will not be maintained anymore, so...yeah. It's a complicated situation.

[afbjorklund]

I understand that it is some kind of weird side-track, but I did think that it was "released" as in "out there".

It (v4.0.1) seemed OK on Linux, downloaded fedora-coreos-35.20220225.dev.0-qemu.x86_64.qcow2.xz

$ podman-remote version
Client:       Podman Engine
Version:      4.0.1
API Version:  4.0.1
Go Version:   go1.17.2
Git Commit:   c8b9a2e3ec3630e9172499e15205c11b823c8107
Built:        Wed Feb 23 20:34:57 2022
OS/Arch:      linux/amd64

Server:       Podman Engine
Version:      4.0.1
API Version:  4.0.1
Go Version:   go1.16.14

Built:      Fri Feb 25 18:05:11 2022
OS/Arch:    linux/amd64
$ podman-remote machine ssh rpm -q podman
Warning: Permanently added '[localhost]:45253' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
podman-4.0.1-1.fc35.x86_64

Waiting for Podman Desktop 4.1.0 is probably best, if there is something else with these early builds... ?

So it's https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Podman4.0 and then all the Fedora CoreOS stuff after that.

[afbjorklund]

Tried "rawhide", but it was still older.

podman-4.0.0-0.6.rc4.fc37.x86_64

[afbjorklund]

the distro that's used on the virtual machine that podman-remote manages

it is podman machine that manages CoreOS, podman-remote can talk to any OS

---

So you could use Fedora or you could use Ubuntu, but like you say above it doesn't help...

• podman.x86_64 3:3.4.4-1.fc35 updates

• podman/impish 3.2.1+ds1-2ubuntu3 amd64

Previously there were some smaller ISO images, but they won't be upgraded for podman4.

• podman.x86_64 2:1.8.0-4.fc30 updates

• podman-3.2.3-r1 x86_64 {podman} (Apache-2.0) [installed]

[farfromunique]

(This may be the wrong place for this, but it's at least related)
How can I build the Podman-remote binary for windows? I'm not at all familiar with compiled-language software development...

[afbjorklund]

How can I build the Podman-remote binary for windows?

Normally it is make podman-remote-windows, but please open a new issue if it doesn't work using the instructions

https://podman.io/getting-started/installation#building-from-scratch

[farfromunique]

Following that link (and searching for "Windows") tells me to install the latest remote client or read a blog post about how to install it for WSL. It says nothing about the make command.
It may be wise to update the documentation.

[afbjorklund]

That assumes that there is a release, which might be true again for 4.1 or so ?

Since there are no Windows binaries, you need to build it from source instead

https://podman.io/getting-started/installation#get-source-code

Apparently there is no documentation, on how to build only the remote client...

[baude]

Things will get updated today for our 4.0.2 release.

[farfromunique]

@baude That was SO easy!
For anyone who finds this later, here's what the instructions probably should be for v4.0.2 on Windows, with WSL2 backend:

download and run podman-v4.0.2.msi (it doesn't look like it does anything, but it does; just very fast!)
Powershell:
1) podman machine init (wait for it to be done. it'll tell you to run...)
2) podman machine start (wait ...)
3) podman run hello-world

[gonzalocasas]

The link in the Getting started page, Windows section is still 404:
Points to https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/latest/download/podman-remote-release-windows.zip instead of https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/download/v4.0.2/podman-v4.0.2.msi

[afbjorklund]

There are static podman-remote binaries for v4.0.2 now.

https://github.com/containers/podman/releases/tag/v4.0.2

[nunix]

Thanks a lot for the follow-up 😄

[gonzalocasas]

sorry to insist, but the main entry point for most new people (on Windows) still returns an error when trying to download the binary:

[rhatdan]

@gonzalocasas Try it now.

[gonzalocasas]

yay! thanks, it works now!