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Weird-looking distribution of Muon::isolationR03().emEt
vs muon ϕ in Phase 2 samples
#43858
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cms-bot internal usage |
A new Issue was created by @mmusich Marco Musich. @makortel, @Dr15Jones, @antoniovilela, @sextonkennedy, @rappoccio, @smuzaffar can you please review it and eventually sign/assign? Thanks. cms-bot commands are listed here |
type muon |
Muon::isolationR03().emEt
vs muon ϕ- in Phase 2 samplesMuon::isolationR03().emEt
vs muon ϕ in Phase 2 samples
wouldn't it be more practical to use PF isolation? |
I was told to use tracker isolation instead. |
track iso should work OK |
yes, but the point of this issue is that this minefield is left in release for anyone to step into. Something should be changed to avoid returning nonsense. |
assign alca, reconstruction, upgrade |
@cms-sw/muon-pog-l2 |
New categories assigned: alca,reconstruction,upgrade @jfernan2,@mandrenguyen,@srimanob,@subirsarkar,@saumyaphor4252,@perrotta,@consuegs you have been requested to review this Pull request/Issue and eventually sign? Thanks |
Since the issue is with the electromagnetic component of the isolation, it would be nice if Egamma can check whether they see a similar trend in their isolation variable. |
@cms-sw/egamma-pog-l2 FYI |
I can confirm, from my setup, the weird behaviour of muons that Marco reported; using 14_1_0 and similar relVal sample (Z to mu mu miniaod). It seems that muon is using calotowers to compute caloIso, as I see here: |
@cms-sw/muon-pog-l2 @cms-sw/egamma-pog-l2 |
just to clarify, the issue is in muon only, not in egamma. |
@rbhattacharya04 have you seen #43858 (comment) ? Do you have any reactions about the suggestion from @swagata87 ? |
Hi everyone, on the muon side, we are working on a re-implementation of our ECAL-based isolation, ditching the no longer supported calo towers and switching to rec hits, following EGMs approach. It's a taking a bit longer than expected, but @24LopezR is working on it and will update here once a solution is implemented. |
Hi all, Ceirtanly, the plots look more natural now. I am currently preparing the PR with this fix. |
+1 |
+Upgrade |
There is still the point at #44797 (comment), so I would prefer to keep this open until that's clarified. |
While studying the Phase2 TkAl ALCARECO events produced in the
Phase2Fall22DRMiniAOD
campaign, a peculiar feature was noticed in the ϕ distribution of the tracks from Z → µµ decays selected from alignment (see here for more details).Upon dedicated check at the level of ALCARECO sample, it was observed that the feature was already present in the tracks persisted in the input sample, but also in the muon tracks from W → μν decays.
Checking on the input muons, the reason of the ϕ-dependent inefficiency was spotted in an abnormal distribution of the muon electromagnetic relative isolation distribution
Muon::isolationR03().emEt
as a function of the muon azimuth. This quantity is used together with the tracker and hadronic relative isolation to select the muons entering the alignment samples.cmssw/Alignment/CommonAlignmentProducer/python/TkAlMuonSelectors_cfi.py
Line 16 in f2ffd7b
For reference it is how the
isolationR03().emEt
looks like in a NO PU SingleMuon gun [*] (hence I would naively expect it to be close to zero):And here the full relative combined isolation vs muon 𝜂-ϕ.
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