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AK4 CHS jets pT cut for Run3 #37167

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clacaputo opened this issue Mar 8, 2022 · 17 comments
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AK4 CHS jets pT cut for Run3 #37167

clacaputo opened this issue Mar 8, 2022 · 17 comments

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clacaputo commented Mar 8, 2022

This issues is intended as a reminder for @cms-sw/reconstruction-l2 , @cms-sw/xpog-l2 and @cms-sw/jetmet-pog-l2, about the discussion we had in #36890.

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Switching from AK4 CHS to AK4 PUPPI jet for Run3 as recommended jet collection.
The PR #36890 is decreasing the AK4 PUPPI jet pT cut from 15 to 10. This effect the AOD event size. Three possible scenarios:

  1. keeping AK4 CHS jets pT cut at 10, leads to an MiniAOD event size increase of 0.37%
  2. increasing AK4 CHS jets pT cut at 15, leads to an MiniAOD event size decrease of 1.0%
  3. keeping AK4 CHS jets pT cut at 10, but slimming down the collection, not yet investigated.

Scenario 1 is favoured by xpog and jmet so we could recalibration of the type1MET with both collections, without invalidating pfMET (#36890 (comment)).

This is a solution just until the end of 2022. To be revised with either scenario 2 or 3

NOTA: potential decrease in MiniAOD event size ~1%

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assign reconstruction

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cmsbuild commented Mar 8, 2022

New categories assigned: reconstruction

@slava77,@jpata,@clacaputo you have been requested to review this Pull request/Issue and eventually sign? Thanks

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cmsbuild commented Mar 8, 2022

A new Issue was created by @clacaputo Claudio Caputo.

@Dr15Jones, @perrotta, @dpiparo, @makortel, @smuzaffar, @qliphy can you please review it and eventually sign/assign? Thanks.

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assign xpog

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cmsbuild commented Mar 8, 2022

New categories assigned: xpog

@mariadalfonso,@gouskos,@fgolf you have been requested to review this Pull request/Issue and eventually sign? Thanks

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jpata commented May 5, 2022

type jetmet

@cmsbuild cmsbuild added the jetmet label May 5, 2022
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vlimant commented Dec 16, 2022

@kirschen : is the need for keeping CHS AK4 Jets at >10 still justified ? am I getting this correctly that such CHS Jets are needed to allow one to use pfMET (by allowing for type1 jet correction to be propagated to it) ?

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Hi @vlimant, good to bring this up. Yes, the "solution 1" was chosen for maximum flexibility during startup, and being able to do type-1 jet corrections "with CHS jets" is one aspect. I will bring it up for discussion within JME again.

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kirschen commented Jan 4, 2023

Hi @vlimant, good to bring this up. Yes, the "solution 1" was chosen for maximum flexibility during startup, and being able to do type-1 jet corrections "with CHS jets" is one aspect. I will bring it up for discussion within JME again.

Pinging @alkaloge @miquork @cms-sw/jetmet-pog-l2 , cf. coordination chat post in December to wrap this up.

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vlimant commented Dec 1, 2023

can we close this, eventually ?

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alkaloge commented Dec 1, 2023

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@vlimant This is on my to do list. I am looking into doing option (2) and (3) at the same time.

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I have made more studies with a TTto4Q Run3Summer23DRPremix inputs. Here are the event size reduction for the various options.

  1. AK4 CHS jet pt > 15 GeV: -1.5%
  2. AK4 CHS jet pt > 15 GeV, remove PileupID & QGL: -1.6%
  3. AK4 CHS jetpt > 15 GeV, remove PileupID, QGL & DeepCSV: -1.8%
  4. AK4 CHS jet pt > 15 GeV, remove PileupID, QGL, DeepCSV & DeepJet: -2.0%.

If the JetMET convenors can agree on an option, I can make a PR for this ASAP.

cc JetMET convenors (@abenecke, @alkaloge, @gagarwal, @dsavoiu, @fiemmi, @rkogler, @wajidalikhan)

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vlimant commented Jan 15, 2024

can you please prepare a summary of this topic for next XPOG meeting https://indico.cern.ch/event/1357023/ so that we move on

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@vlimant yeah I can give the talk.

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This is now resolved and merged in 14_1_X and 14_0_X.

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vlimant commented Feb 22, 2024

please close

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