missing locales and locale-gen?

[Andy2244]

I'm getting some errors/warnings regarding missing locales like:
smbd dos charset 'CP850' unavailable - using ASCII
cockpit invalid or unusable locale: en_DE.UTF-8

I guess this could be solved via locale-gen, but its missing from clearlinux?

[ahkok]

en_DE is pertinently incorrect though, there's no such thing as german english.

I'm not yet sure what needs to be done to be able to get more locales though, yet.

[fenrus75]

we also have the core bundle only have basic locales and some other bundles adding the rest we may need the "rest" to the samba bundles

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On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:42 AM, ahkok ***@***.***> wrote: en_DE is pertinently incorrect though, there's no such thing as german english. I'm not yet sure what needs to be done to be able to get more locales though, yet. — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABPeFcrP8NnX9Lz0lqQYokE12I2m-Zs4ks5tJQSfgaJpZM4RPu3k> .

[Andy2244]

Supposedly its fixed this way:
fix

The problem is that from windows en_DE is valid, aka english language and german date/time format. The fix uses locale-gen/localedef to generate and remap, which i cant find in clearlinux.

[iphutch]

@matthewrsj can you look into adding localedef

[matthewrsj]

/usr/bin/localedef is already provided by both the c-basic and os-core-dev bundles.

[phmccarty]

@matthewrsj is correct. The localedef program is provided by two bundles, as discovered by running sudo swupd search /usr/bin/localedef.

@Andy2244 There are many locales you can define, but of out the box, the only defined locale is en_US.UTF-8. I recommend to define the locales you need using localedef, and set them using localectl set-locale ...

[phmccarty]

After further tests, localectl set-locale ... appears buggy, so you can modify /etc/locale.conf directly instead. For example, here's how you can define and set the fr_FR.UTF-8 locale:

sudo localedef -i fr_FR -f UTF-8 fr_FR.UTF-8
sudo sh -c 'echo LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8" > /etc/locale.conf'

For settings to take effect, log out and log back in.

[ahkok]

Is this something we need to include in a more logical bundle? like, sysadmin-basic ? Having it in c-basic and os-core-dev is missing the point I think

[phmccarty]

Also, for reference, the available locale data from glibc are stored in /usr/share/i18n/locales/. You'll see that en_DE is not present, so trying to localedef -i en_DE ... does not work.

However, you are always free to create locale data for en_DE, and then define a new locale using that data:

1. Copy a locale data file from /usr/share/i18n/locales to use as a starting point for your new locale. You can store it anywhere, e.g. /usr/local/share/en_DE.
2. Modify /usr/local/share/en_DE as needed.
3. Run localedef -i /usr/local/share/en_DE -f UTF-8 en_DE.UTF-8
4. Set LANG=en_DE.UTF-8 in /etc/locale.conf
5. Log out / log back in

[Andy2244]

Having it in c-basic and os-core-dev is missing the point I think

yeah that's really "strange"

I never had this particular problem on any of the "big" linux distro, so something seems off regarding clear-linux.

[matthewrsj]

@ahkok localedef is provided by glibcwhich is why it is in those particular bundles. Do we want to add glibc to sysadmin-basic? Seems like a weird fit. Maybe a new locale-focused bundle?

[bryteise]

Well it sits in glibc-locale currently (per the spec). It has a note mentioning spit on the section though. I'm pretty happy to add glibc-locale to sysadmin-basic. @phmccarty do you think opening an issue for localectl would make sense too?

[Andy2244]

Oki as noticed "en_DE.UTF-8" does not exist in the default linux world, strangely enough most distro's with a GUI setup, let me setup English language and German formats/time, similar to what Windows does.

So i just did localedef -i en_DK -f UTF-8 en_DE.UTF-8, since DK formats are similar and exists.

I'm closing this, since it seems linux in general deems it "strange" that this combination exists, while windows does not. So its not the fault of clear-linux, however "locale-gen/localedef" should exist in the same basic admin/locales package, both handle advanced locales.

[phmccarty]

As of the 22210 release, localedef is now present in the sysadmin-basic bundle, along with all of the locale data from /usr/share/i18n/.

[ahkok]

On 04/30/2018 03:12 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: @ahkok <https://github.com/ahkok> |localedef| is provided by |glibc|which is why it is in those particular bundles. Do we want to add |glibc| to |sysadmin-basic|? Seems like a weird fit. Maybe a new locale-focused bundle?

It should probably be in `glibc-extras`. localedef isn't a tool that *everyone* uses. But, it absolutely belongs in a "administrate my basic system" bundle. So perhaps go with the -extras and put that in sysadmin-basic. Auke