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Analysis of micro-interactions in Gutenberg #2279
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This is what #2248 was trying to address, by showing the toolbar on selecting words, while still keeping the toolbar available at other times ender the ellipsis.
Can you elaborate on ENTER? Which case?
Which "decorations" are still there from previous blocks? I'm not sure if I understand this one.
I've agreed with this one from the beginning. I find anything that changes based on mouse movement quite distracting.
That's what #2248 suggests, I guess.
I tend to agree, it's definitely not needed all the time. I do miss having an inserter on enter, which would handle (I think) most inserter needs, and I agree that it's good to show it in the main editor toolbar as well for discoverability. I also do like how bottom one kind of introduces you to it, but after a while it becomes annoying like a tip that keeps popping up when you know how it works. |
Re ENTER: example here was typing in title and pressing ENTER (does not go to next block/paragraph) (around 1:15 mins in video) Re decorations: from about 1:30 mins in the video. Typing in a block still leaves the block outline+cog+bin decoration visible in previously created blocks |
I am sorry if you did not meant this issue as user feedback, please be free to delete or ignore mine. Will write it very short, how I personally experience Gutenberg. Do not find myself in some statements from above, of other users.
On the other side, not mentioned around:
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@StaggerLeee thanks for your thoughts. One point I would like to get you to think about is these tests aren't being reported from @annaephox's single view. I notice you are saying what you feel, that's great but we really also have to start looking at what other users to ourselves are doing, thinking and feeling. I'd encourage you to observe someone, to step outside your own interactions and see what Gutenberg is like for others. |
I understand all this @karmatosed. Jus saying any so big change meet resistance (very legitimate and morally allowed stand), and not to be mixed with how difficult is to use Gutenberg. All my opinion can summarize as "dead simple" to use. Majority of my writings here is about people I did websites too. I know how they think, what they do in backend, what they need or not. Like I would care otherways. My only private website that I own is built with Drupal. |
Thanks so much for gathering this feedback, @annaephox <3 |
The biggest reaction I had to @annaephox's material (namely, the video) is that the interface requires a lot of processing. Composing paragraphs really shouldn't be that noisy, and a side-by-side comparison with Medium really reiterates how much is packed into the interface (and "close" to the user at all times). I feel like a content creator should never, ever, have to think about basic text elements as blocks. Paragraphs in particular, but I think that this extends to headings and other simple formatting such as lists. The content itself should feel cohesive in the editing experience, which is something that is lost with such literal block visualization as it exists now. Massive thanks for collecting, analyzing, and contributing this information. It's incredibly important. |
Thank you so much for this @annaephox - it's a lot to dive into and really I second that iterating, getting the micro-interactions right is important. I see this as the type of refinement post version 0.9/1 can bring. That said, it's great to start to think about it right now. A few things I am slightly obsessed with is having an animation pace, story and consistency to interactions. Just something to throw in when looking at micro-interactions. I've also been doing some self thinking about what the 'feel' the emotion of Gutenberg should be. The one I keep coming back to is 'calm' and 'supporting'. Just another thing to throw in when looking at these smaller details. My thoughts above aren't as in-depth as your analysis deserves, but it got me triggered into writing this down. There's a lot here and I would love to see maybe individual issues spun out we can really dive into from this. |
Forgive me for this "beginner's mind" question, but why are paragraphs instantiated as blocks? Why are they not a monolithic block which can be split into two blocks if required? I understand the intent of blocked paragraphs is : so that if a user wishes to move the paragraph, or transform the paragraph, but I think those transformations are not primary actions. How frequently do we need to transform paragraphs? I'd estimate 80% of paragraph creation does not need transformation, and those that do are a transformation initiation request. I feel the UI is starting from the wrong half of that split by creating paragraphs as if every one required transformation always. |
As we have issues split out for this, lets close this ticket as it has no actionable - those are in the issues made. |
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Hello! This issue is related to a number of separate but related items ( #2156 #2259 #2148 #2151 #467 #539 #2248), and focuses on trying to identify the root causes for some of the user feedback Gutenberg has received to date.
We started with an analysis of user feedback collated to date, including #1550, #1950 and #1419. One of the core themes that comes up from this feedback is that the Gutenberg editor is heavy, distracting, breaks writing flow, feels visually cluttered and generally delivers a "nervous and restless experience".
This may sound overwhelming, but it's possible that a lot of these user concerns can be sorted by tweaking the timing of the micro-interactions in the editor. @mtias alludes to this in #2156:
We ran some user tests, and collated this short video (2 mins) which compares writing in Gutenberg to writing in Medium
Our key takeaways from the comparative analysis:
cc @karmatosed @melchoyce @mtias @EphoxJames @tg-ephox
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