Offer a default keyboard shortcut to display the score Estimation

[wctgit]

Currently, you must click on the hamburger and Estimate to show an estimation. It would be much more convenient to have a default keyboard shortcut assigned to this action, and especially to allow multiple re-estimations without having to click the x to close the score estimator display (since the score estimation may change each time, sometimes by a lot, and clicking x, then hamburger, then Estimate is way too many steps just to get a quick re-estimate).

[yishn]

Can you suggest a fitting keyboard shortcut? What about scoring the game? I feel like if 'Estimate' has a keyboard shortcut, then 'Score' should have one, too.

[wctgit]

Well, I'm not sure what kind of keyboard shortcut style you prefer. You've got Ctrl-I for Game Info, and Ctrl-Shift-M for Manage Games, which are two I'm currently using frequently. A straightforward extension of that would be Ctrl-E, Ctrl-S, but Ctrl-S is usually Save, so maybe Ctrl-Shift-E, Ctrl-Shift-S? Alternatively, you could use some of the F keys, like F5, F6, or whatever. Finally, you could offer a default shortcut and offer users to be able to edit the shortcuts, but this would take more work.

Another possibility I can think of, based on my own mnemonic would be Ctrl-= for Estimate, and Ctrl-Shift-= for Score.

[yishn]

Ctrl+E is 'Toggle Edit Mode', Ctrl+Shift+S is 'Save As...', so... not really an option. F5 and F6 are currently reserved for GTP engines, and keyboard shortcuts with special characters like = are bad for international keyboards.

I've given some thought about this and I didn't find any good keyboard shortcuts for Estimate and Score, so that's why I was asking.

[wctgit]

Do keyboard shortcuts necessarily require a modifier key? Why not just 'E' and 'S'? How about Ctrl-NumPad+ for Estimate and Ctrl-Enter and/or Ctrl-NumPadEnter for Score? Numpad keys no good either? Honestly, anything is better than nothing, IMHO. Use Ctrl-7 or Ctrl-P for all I care. :-) I'll learn whatever the key is.

[yishn]

Ctrl+Plus and Ctrl+Minus are controlling the zoom. Differentiating between Enter and NumPadEnter is not a very good idea, also some laptops don't even have a numpad. Press Ctrl+P to pass. Ctrl+{1-9} are reserved for edit tools. Ctrl+0 resets the zoom.

[yishn]

Keyboard shortcuts don't necessarily require a modifier key. But it's good style to have one. Because you won't be able to activate a keyboard shortcut when, for example, a textbox is focused, if you don't have a modifier key.

I think we can still use K, U, and D with Ctrl...

[wctgit]

You can also use Ctrl-Alt, Alt-Shift, and Ctrl-Alt-Shift. I used to work for a company that made a GUI for programmers, and we ended up using all sorts of combinations (as well as user-customizable).

[weaver299]

What about Ctrl-Shift-E for Estimate, and Ctrl-Shift-R for scoRe?

Apologies if those have already been addressed and I didn't catch it... I saw Ctrl-Shift-E was mentioned but it didn't look like that specific one had been ruled out. I tried these while viewing a game in edit mode and not edit mode (tested on Mac only) and they didn't seem to do anything..

Command-Shift-E/R on Mac would preferable but Control-Shift-E/R would be fine too.

I would love this feature too, because I'm often stepping through my games and trying to observe the change in score estimate... I was actually thinking it would be cool if we could still navigate the game tree without turning the estimate off at all.. but just the hotkeys would be a big help.

Thanks for your excellent work! Best SGF UI I've ever used...