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Add support of OLED screen for TS101 (new HW revision of display/PCB?) #2063

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showier-drastic opened this issue Jan 31, 2025 · 23 comments
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showier-drastic commented Jan 31, 2025

Describe the bug

After flashing 2.23-RC1 on a newly-purchased TS101, the display is not working properly.

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  1. Flash the firmware on it

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Displays correctly

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  • Device: TS101
  • Release: 2.23-RC1
  • Power adapter being used: Irrelevant, issue exists regardless of adapter
  • If this is an accelerometer related issue, please include its model number here:

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ia commented Feb 1, 2025

After flashing 2.23-RC1 on a newly-purchased TS101, the display is not working properly.

Could you, please, honestly remember: did you use the device with the original Miniware firmware before flashing IronOS?

Power adapter being used: Irrelevant, issue exists regardless of adapter

No, it's not irrelevant. Let this decide to people who may have time & knowledge to help without telepathic skills. ;)

Although some details during report may seem insignificant, for any good bug report the more information you provide, the better (even if it won't be needed in the end).

So... could you tell, please, what power adapter did you use exactly right before it happened? Did you attach power cable over DC barrel connector or over USB-C port?

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showier-drastic commented Feb 1, 2025

@ia Thanks for the tips.

After flashing 2.23-RC1 on a newly-purchased TS101, the display is not working properly.

Could you, please, honestly remember: did you use the device with the original Miniware firmware before flashing IronOS?

Yes, and the original firmware works normally. I think this might indicate some hardware revision that changes the screen model?

Power adapter being used: Irrelevant, issue exists regardless of adapter

No, it's not irrelevant. Let this decide to people who may have time & knowledge to help without telepathic skills. ;)

Although some details during report may seem insignificant, for any good bug report the more information you provide, the better (even if it won't be needed in the end).

So... could you tell, please, what power adapter did you use exactly right before it happened? Did you attach power cable over DC barrel connector or over USB-C port?

I've tried all possible options (DC connector, dumb 5V USB-A to USB-C, and 30W Apple Adapter that comes with my MacBook), and they all have the same issue. Therefore I say that it's irrelevant. Also it happens right after I flashed the firmware, so the adapter I'm using right before it happened is my MacBook Pro 2021.

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ia commented Feb 1, 2025

I've tried all possible options (DC connector

I had to ask, because recently there was a very similar comment. Here is the statement that it did happen only because of unlucky power source through DC barrel. I thought it may be related.

Also it happens right after I flashed the firmware

Could you try to flash the original firmware back? Even if screen doesn't work, if it's only OLED issue with IronOS, then you could try go to DFU mode and flash the Miniware firmware to see if the screen works again.

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oliverpool commented Feb 1, 2025

I also purchased a TS101 recently (edit: actually Aug 2024, so not soooo recent).
The stock firmware worked fine (forgot to write down the version), DFU indicates 1.05.

I upgraded first to v2.22 without problems (the display was small, as expected).
Then I upgraded to v2.23-rc1 without problem (display is now fullscreen), when connected to my computer (05) or to a proper USB adapter (21).

(it does not likely help the OP, since everything seems to work fine for me - in my case only a big "thank you" to the maintainers for the great work!)

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@ia Sorry for the late reply.

Just flashed back to original firmware (TS101AppV210.zip). It works without issue, no display corruptions. All function works properly.

@ia ia added Bug Serious issue or problem. Hardware Issue May be PCB/HW design related. and removed Awaiting Response Waiting for user response, if none issue will be closed. labels Feb 2, 2025
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ia commented Feb 2, 2025

Just flashed back to original firmware (TS101AppV210.zip). It works without issue, no display corruptions. All function works properly.

So we just eliminated the theory about OLED corruption by bad power source, in your case. I'm sincerely happy to know that physically your screen works and that it hasn't been damaged.

Now, could you, please, try the stable release of v2.22 build on your TS101 and report results back? Thanks.

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It is still corrupted with v2.22.

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Stupid question: which file did you put on the device? (language and extension)

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Stupid question: which file did you put on the device? (language and extension)

TS101_EN.hex

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ts101_en.hex sounds good.

When flashing, what is displayed as DFU version?
You get the .rdy file after flashing, right?
(sorry if those questions sound stupid, but I am looking to find any visible difference between our devices)

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showier-drastic commented Feb 2, 2025

ts101_en.hex sounds good.

When flashing, what is displayed as DFU version?

DFU:1.06

You get the .rdy file after flashing, right?

Yes.

(sorry if those questions sound stupid, but I am looking to find any visible difference between our devices)

No these are not stupid questions; I appreciate your help very much.

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ia commented Feb 2, 2025

@Ralim, could you look at this when you have time, please?

I think this might indicate some hardware revision that changes the screen model?

Probably this is the most reasonable assumption so far: it seems Miniware did start to change OLED screen model in TS101, so hardware-related code to control the screen doesn't work properly anymore.

And, @Ralim, is there any way to get OLED model like we do it with accelerometers, for example?

@showier-drastic, I'm not familiar with a hardware construction & case of TS101, but, at your own risk, you could very carefully disassemble your TS101 to see if there is any ID on or around OLED screen (to get the exact model). Another suggestion (a bit crazy though) - you could play a social engineering card a bit: write to Miniware official support email/contact, tell them that you damaged OLED, but you did replace it yourself by re-soldering, but now it doesn't work (you could attach photo that you showed us here) and ask them something like: "could you, tell me, please, which OLED screen exactly (manufacturer/model/id) I should buy to replace it successfully?" (believe it or not, but Miniware is very unfriendly about sharing any information about their devices & hardware willingfully).

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@Ralim, could you look at this when you have time, please?

I think this might indicate some hardware revision that changes the screen model?

Probably this is the most reasonable assumption so far: it seems Miniware did start to change OLED screen model in TS101, so hardware-related code to control the screen doesn't work properly anymore.

Is it possible that we can try some code with similar OLED models? I'm willing to collaborate on trying to flash and debug.

And, @Ralim, is there any way to get OLED model like we do it with accelerometers, for example?

@showier-drastic, I'm not familiar with a hardware construction & case of TS101, but, at your own risk, you could very carefully disassemble your TS101 to see if there is any ID on or around OLED screen (to get the exact model). Another suggestion (a bit crazy though) - you could play a social engineering card a bit: write to Miniware official support email/contact, tell them that you damaged OLED, but you did replace it yourself by re-soldering, but now it doesn't work (you could attach photo that you showed us here) and ask them something like: "could you, tell me, please, which OLED screen exactly (manufacturer/model/id) I should buy to replace it successfully?" (believe it or not, but Miniware is very unfriendly about sharing any information about their devices & hardware willingfully).

Unfortunately it seems that it's impossible to see the screen model without doing damage to the iron: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Miniware+TS101+soldering+iron/169989

Maybe I can try some social engineering as you mentioned, let's see if that works out.

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Here's an internal picture of the iron, in case that helps:

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ia commented Feb 3, 2025

Unfortunately it seems that it's impossible to see the screen model without doing damage to the iron: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Miniware+TS101+soldering+iron/169989

But what about this TS101 disassemble howto? It looks "less damaging" as far as I understand, and as the title says. Sorry, I'm shooting in the dark here, since I don't own TS101 myself, but still trying to help with everything I can.

Oh, and another question: where did you get your TS101? Is there at least smallest chance that it may be some kind of clone, but not originally produced by Miniware?

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Unfortunately it seems that it's impossible to see the screen model without doing damage to the iron: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Miniware+TS101+soldering+iron/169989

But what about this TS101 disassemble howto? It looks "less damaging" as far as I understand, and as the title says. Sorry, I'm shooting in the dark here, since I don't own TS101 myself, but still trying to help with everything I can.

Thanks for this, but I do not feel that I can remove the glass without breaking it, so unless it's absolutely necessary, I prefer not to try this way.

To me the screen issue sounds like it might be resolved by tweaking OLED registers, I will probably try to debug the firmware when I have some time.

Oh, and another question: where did you get your TS101? Is there at least smallest chance that it may be some kind of clone, but not originally produced by Miniware?

On a taobao shop (购百应科技). It seems to have a high sales volume.

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ia commented Feb 4, 2025

I do not feel that I can remove the glass without breaking it, so unless it's absolutely necessary, I prefer not to try this way.

No problem, thanks for checking out anyway.

it might be resolved by tweaking OLED registers

Yeah, as far as I understand, this is the exact root cause - if they changed hardware revision of OLED model, then the calls to support new model should be added as well. However, without knowing the exact model and its datasheet, there is not so much we can do, I guess. :(

Oh, I have another theory: they could keep the same OLED model, but may change PCB design a bit with modification to traces between, let's say, MCU and OLED, so in this case a new pinout "map" could be a good start. Visual inspection (even with cheapest usb microscope) and multimeter (in signal tracing mode with very thin probes) are the best friends here (take-out of the main PCB from the main shell is still required though, and there is no any guarantee that even that will help right away, so just leaving this advice for the bravest ones).

Another question! If you have opportunity and mood to keep experiments with (re-)flashing, or maybe you have this information from the previous run of IronOS on your device: even without OLED displaying info properly, did you notice that IronOS works in general, anyway? I.e., if you flash IronOS, and on the first power-on you press +/A button to go to Soldering Mode & moving the tip to the solder, does the tip melt the solder? And does the tip cool off after long -/B press? Just use measures of precaution, please, since there is no any feedback from the screen, if you decide to check.

On a taobao shop (购百应科技). It seems to have a high sales volume.

Just one more thing on that - what was the exact date of you placing the order? And date of you receiving your TS101? This may help, if we will start to receive the similar reports soon.

P.S. Thank you for keeping in touch, it's a rare thing around here in the issue tracker. But if you don't mind, I would like to update the title since we established this as the fact that luckily your OLED is not corrupted. :)

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Oh, I have another theory: they could keep the same OLED model, but may change PCB design a bit with modification to traces between, let's say, MCU and OLED, so in this case a new pinout "map" could be a good start. Visual inspection (even with cheapest usb microscope) and multimeter (in signal tracing mode with very thin probes) are the best friends here (take-out of the main PCB from the main shell is still required though, and there is no any guarantee that even that will help right away, so just leaving this advice for the bravest ones).

A quick find is that the PCB revision number of mine and whitequarks' (in your disassemble guide) are the same (V1.51A). So the possibility of this should be somewhat low.

Another question! If you have opportunity and mood to keep experiments with (re-)flashing, or maybe you have this information from the previous run of IronOS on your device: even without OLED displaying info properly, did you notice that IronOS works in general, anyway? I.e., if you flash IronOS, and on the first power-on you press +/A button to go to Soldering Mode & moving the tip to the solder, does the tip melt the solder? And does the tip cool off after long -/B press? Just use measures of precaution, please, since there is no any feedback from the screen, if you decide to check.

On a taobao shop (购百应科技). It seems to have a high sales volume.

Just one more thing on that - what was the exact date of you placing the order? And date of you receiving your TS101? This may help, if we will start to receive the similar reports soon.

Roughly 3 weeks ago.

P.S. Thank you for keeping in touch, it's a rare thing around here in the issue tracker. But if you don't mind, I would like to update the title since we established this as the fact that luckily your OLED is not corrupted. :)

Thanks for your help too. It's very important to get in touch.

@ia ia changed the title Add support of OLED screen for TS101 (new display revision/PCB?) Add support of OLED screen for TS101 (new HW revision of display/PCB?) Feb 4, 2025
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The rest of IronOS's functionality seems to be working. If I press the + button, the tip heats up, and I can tell that the temperature numbers are changing from the corrupted image. If I press the - button, some animation happens. Screen rotation works too, as shown in my video.

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ia commented Feb 4, 2025

A quick find is that the PCB revision number of mine and whitequarks' (in your disassemble guide) are the same (V1.51A).

Good catch. Didn't pay attention to this myself.

So the possibility of this should be somewhat low.

Yes... unless they did it without renaming the version on the PCB. Not sure how much this probable though. :/

It's very important to get in touch.

Although at this point I don't have much to comment/provide anymore, unfortunately. :(

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Ralim commented Feb 4, 2025

Hia,

This definitely screams of a bad OLED init sequence.
Are you able to build IronOS yourself?

It's most likely one of these :

I2C_CLASS::I2C_REG OLED_Setup_Array[] = {

I would be suspect its lines 39-42 (inclusive); as those do change with different clones of the OLED's.

If your able to build locally, changing those +-1 to see results can often be telling?

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I had to ask, because recently there was a very similar comment. Here is the statement that it did happen only because of unlucky power source through DC barrel. I thought it may be related.

Yeah, but that was due to constant voltage fluctuation (got a PSU that trades voltage for amps, not the opposite as it should...)

Just flashed back to original firmware (TS101AppV210.zip). It works without issue, no display corruptions. All function works properly.

So we just eliminated the theory about OLED corruption by bad power source, in your case. I'm sincerely happy to know that physically your screen works and that it hasn't been damaged.

Now, could you, please, try the stable release of v2.22 build on your TS101 and report results back? Thanks.

This thing with PSU and voltage spikes provokes only converter part of the circuit to fail, in my case it was the same capacitor and transistor over and over again, i have no idea why something else didn't fail on PCB, but ok

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In the meantime, maybe an hint could be added to the README in the "Miniware TS101" notes, linking to this issue:

OLED issues with DFU:1.06

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