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Document what public API means #35715

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@tkf tkf commented May 3, 2020

I think there is confusion in Julia community for what it means to be a public API. I think clarifying it in documentation makes sense.

Closes #7561.

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stev47 commented May 4, 2020

Sometimes the manual mentions "internal" methods (e.g. methods starting with underscore in the chapter on methods). Maybe one could clarify that apparently "non-internal" does not mean "public".

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👍 to adding this. I'm sure @StefanKarpinski will want to weigh in.

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This feels a little too restrictive. People can rely on internal code if they want to, but they just need to be aware that we may change it and break their code. If they're ok with that, then carry on. But if they find it useful then someone else may as well, so it would be helpful if they would open an issue to figure out a way to expose the functionality in some official way.

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stev47 commented May 5, 2020 via email

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tkf commented May 5, 2020

I'd say "internal" is exactly the complement of "public".

If so, could you then change the corresponding wording about "internal methods" in the manual section about methods?

I'm not sure what is inconsistent with the part you linked. If you think you have a better wording in that part, the best way is to open an PR. It's touching a different part of the documentation so it can be discussed independently.

It is assumed to be an internal marker in a lot of other programming languages

Yes, it is "assumed" to be; but not always true. In a lot of programming languages it is used in public interface when it's doing something tricky (an example in Python; an example in C).

So looking from the other side: exported functions that are not documented are not considered public?

You have to declare public API to use SemVer. That's the very first thing mentioned in SemVer spec. Writing documentation is more or less the only way to declare public API in Julia at the moment (it'd be nice to improve this, of course). export alone does not mean anything because it doesn't tell you what interface the exported names satisfy.

Obviously, I'm only describing an ideal case. In practice, you may be able to rely on kindness of the library authors to avoid abrupt change in not-strictly-stable API.

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stev47 commented May 6, 2020 via email

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Writing documentation is more or less the only way to declare public API in Julia at the moment (it'd be nice to improve this, of course). export alone does not mean anything

I don't think this is entirely true; anything exported should be considered public, and it's considered a bug for an exported identifier not to have documentation. But even if an exported name didn't have documentation, it would at least need to remain exported and do something like what it did before to avoid breaking code.

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tkf commented May 6, 2020

Yes, I agree that's the best action once undocumented export names are found.

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mbauman commented May 8, 2020

Fun fact: merging this would close the least-recently-updated open issue (#7561).

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Bump. This would be nice to get merged and feels like we are close.

@vtjnash vtjnash merged commit bb5b98e into JuliaLang:master Apr 20, 2021
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vtjnash commented Apr 20, 2021

I can't see any reason not to have merged this.

ElOceanografo pushed a commit to ElOceanografo/julia that referenced this pull request May 4, 2021
Provides some guidelines, in addition to those added recently by JuliaLang#40533 to the style-guide, per JuliaLang#7561.
antoine-levitt pushed a commit to antoine-levitt/julia that referenced this pull request May 9, 2021
Provides some guidelines, in addition to those added recently by JuliaLang#40533 to the style-guide, per JuliaLang#7561.
johanmon pushed a commit to johanmon/julia that referenced this pull request Jul 5, 2021
Provides some guidelines, in addition to those added recently by JuliaLang#40533 to the style-guide, per JuliaLang#7561.
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