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CSS 2020 #898
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I'd be happy to help here. Layout is my CSS specialism but I can write about most things. I'm also an experienced editor. |
I’m happy to contribute, too. With my current workload the least I can commit to is reviewing—I look forward to coordinating with whoever would be driving this section. |
I'd love to help in any way. |
I have a particular knack and interest in selectors and specificity, but can write about other topics as well. |
@LeaVerou thank you for agreeing to be the lead author for the CSS chapter! As the lead, you'll be responsible for driving the content planning and writing phases in collaboration with your content team, which will consist of yourself as lead, any coauthors you choose as needed, peer reviewers, and data analysts. The immediate next steps for this chapter are:
There's a ton of info in the top comment, so check that out and feel free to ping myself or @rviscomi with any questions! @rachelandrew @j9t @catalinred @estelle @hankchizljaw we'd still love to have you contribute as a peer reviewer or coauthor as needed. Let us know if you're still interested! |
Yeh just let me know when and if you need me 🙂 |
Tentatively adding @rachelandrew and @estelle as coauthors and everyone who commented as a reviewer. @LeaVerou feel free to reassign at your discretion. |
Howdy everyone! 👋 Warm thanks @rviscomi and @OBTo for selecting me to lead this effort. I'm psyched! I think @rachelandrew would be an excellent co-author, especially for anything layout. I have a lot of ideas for reviewers and co-authors, to which I will reach out privately, then @-mention here (I would rather not ask them in public, as it makes it harder to say no). I do not have any ideas for analysts however. Should we be looking for people swapping areas of responsibility or look for new people to join? Perhaps anyone from the current reviewers would like to become an analyst? I'm going to re-read last year's chapter and reflect on what has happened in CSS within the year. A few quick initial thoughts:
If anyone has any ideas/suggestions, they are always welcome! |
Hi everyone, Happy that @LeaVerou accepted to be the lead author for the CSS chapter. The authors team is amazing. Here are some of my random thoughts on what numbers I'd like to see in this new chapter:
Let me know what you think. |
I'd like to announce @fantasai as a reviewer. @catalinred What fantastic ideas, thank you! |
What a fantastic line-up! Very excited to see what we come up with in this chapter. |
Announcing @mirisuzanne as reviewer! |
Hi @LeaVerou, CSS chapter team—if I’m not missing anything then ID and class names hadn’t been covered in neither Markup nor CSS chapter last year. They may be more of a topic to cover in the Markup chapter but I wanted to raise this here in case you’ve flagged this on your side, too. Let’s coordinate on this if necessary—I’ll follow up as soon as I get a feeling for interest and feasibility on the Markup chapter side. |
@estelle I've sent you an invite to join the 2020 Authors team on GitHub. Can you visit https://github.com/HTTPArchive/ to accept the invite? This will ensure you get notifications about important chapter milestones. |
I certainly would! I'm unsure of the apportioning between this CSS chapter and the Fonts chapter though.
Nice one, although
The second one is interesting to analyze because it constitutes a part of the Open Web Platform that was added without the usual design debate or standards process. |
@catalinred some great suggestions there! |
I'm aware only Safari implements this now, but other browsers are showing interest so probing
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Hi reviewers @fantasai @mirisuzanne @j9t @catalinred @hankchizljaw ! Since we are only 16 days from launch, it may be a good idea to start iterating earlier, rather than later. Feel free to edit directly if you are reasonably certain about a correction (e.g. typos, grammar mistakes etc), or add comments for more substantive changes. |
Hi @LeaVerou—this is probably very present for you, but which documents are you referring to? Is there an overview? (I can’t spot any pointers scanning this thread.) |
Hi @j9t this document which is linked from the first post in this issue |
Leaving some feedback here that I couldn’t quite leave in the doc. This was a first scan, I’m on standby to help where I can.
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I just added an initial draft of layout. Is someone doing a copy edit of this? I know we have tech editors/reviewers. |
Yes there will be a copy edit once Authors and Reviewers are finish and have converted to Markdown and committed it to Git - see #1432 . The expectation, however, is that the Authors and Reviewers have it in a state they'd be happy to publish, to help ease that load on editing and then copy editing is to get a consistent style across the chapters and have an independent pairs of eyes on it from a readability perspective, outside of the main content team for that chapter. Still the editing process can take a fair bit of time as we ask Authors to review all the edits to make sure they are happy with the suggested changes and we haven't introduced any inaccuracies. More details of the process and what we typically look for in the Editor's Guide. But that's ahead of us. Let's get the draft in a state you all are happy with, and then convert to Markdown, and then we can look at editing. Btw if we have any professional editors then we'll gladly accept any more help in the editing team for other chapters 😉 |
Thank you!
Could you elaborate? Is there a different order you'd recommend?
I do like my exclamation marks 😛 But feel free to remove any obviously superfluous ones (or use the "suggest edits" feature if you’re not comfortable directly removing)
It's a little late to add additional metrics, the call for metrics was in July... However I'm intrigued by this and I think it could be an interesting metric. I could try to sneak it in at the last moment, but I'll need your help. Could you please open an issue here and elaborate a little on the algorithm you envision (is it just number of unique declarations? What kind of normalization would we do?), how you'd interpret the data, and what kind of visualizations would be helpful. I can't promise anything, but I'll try. I assume you're criticizing this repetition when it comes to CSS as an output target, since when authoring DRY is not the begin all and end all, but repetition can aid understandability.
Oh ok. In most of my experience writing and reviewing, most figures tended to come after review, and existed solely as placeholders during the review stage. However, if reviewers feel it's best to wait until visualizations are in place and the document is in better shape, that's fine too. In general though, the more fleshed out a draft is, the harder it is to iterate and make drastic changes (not just in writing; e.g. in usability initial user studies and iterations are often done on paper prototypes). |
I filed LeaVerou/css-almanac#54 for declaration repetition. On the other items I’ll either follow up in the doc or wait for additional calls for review to check again. |
Hi everyone, I figured I'd post a progress update. At this point, we have most of the visualizations and missing numbers in place, and the draft is in much better shape. These are the things that still need to be done, please let me know if I'm forgetting anything:
8 days left until launch! |
I'll finish the RWD section tomorrow, sorry for the delay. I'd offered to do it then assumed someone else was, however I'll get it done. |
@j9t Good news: I did manage to query declaration repetition, you can find the results in this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sMWXWjMujqfAREYxNbG_t1fOJKYCA6ASLwtz4pBQVTw/edit#gid=2124098640 Do you think you'll be able to add a paragraph on it by tomorrow, either in the Meta section, or in the Usage section (I think it would fit in either)? |
Awesome! Very cool to see this. Happy to write down something. I’d have a question related to the data though—can you give me comment access? (I need to check on “unique_ratio” and why it doesn’t seem to reflect unique/total—maybe I miss something silly, maybe there’s something we need to update.) |
Granted! |
Hi everyone, 2 days until launch! 🚀 Dear reviewers (@fantasai @mirisuzanne @j9t @catalinred @hankchizljaw), A few sections need work still:
Apart from that, the rest should be ready for review (though tweaks will still happen), so you might want to review earlier rather than later, and if there's time, take a look at the sections above later in the day. Unfortunately, we will need to launch before copyediting and will thus have an "Unedited" label for the first few days. I decided that the tradeoff of getting more time for content review was worth it. As you may guess by the rush, we're a bit behind schedule, but a) this is by far the largest chapter (> 3x bigger than the average chapter I believe) and b) compared to many other chapters, we're doing well. One thing to keep in mind is that the launch date is a very hard deadline, moving it even a day later is not an option, we will need to launch on December 9th with whatever we have. Thank you all for your efforts, both throughout the last few months, and now for the home stretch! |
Hi again folks! 1 day until launch! 🚀 The draft is now basically done (besides a couple of pending figures) so it's time to convert it to Markdown. Thank you everyone for all your hard work on this! It's shaping up to be a great chapter! |
Part I Chapter 1: CSS
Content team
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