Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Fire Ax has a spike not a hook #78973

Merged

Conversation

Maleclypse
Copy link
Member

Summary

None

Purpose of change

Spike not hook

Describe the solution

Hooks grab limbs and pull. They are curved to do so. Fire Axes have a spike that is not curved, because it isn't designed for use against flesh.

Describe alternatives you've considered

Testing

Additional context

@github-actions github-actions bot added the [JSON] Changes (can be) made in JSON label Jan 5, 2025
@PGR-14
Copy link

PGR-14 commented Jan 5, 2025

Wood axes have it too, so I think it's hooking w/ the axe head itself, not the spike. Also, isn't the other end a "prybar" of some kind?

@github-actions github-actions bot added astyled astyled PR, label is assigned by github actions json-styled JSON lint passed, label assigned by github actions labels Jan 5, 2025
@Vaskritaya
Copy link
Contributor

Hooking with an axe is a pretty common technique you see around in HEMA and the like, but I've mostly seen it done for shields/weapons rather than limbs, etc. Just searching for some images online, wood axes generally seem to have the necessary shape for hooking like that. Most fire axe images I'm seeing portray them as fairly straight and compact instead, so they probably wouldn't be great for hooking. You probably could in real life, but you could hook with plenty of other weapons that aren't "hooking weapons" as well.

Ultimately comes down to precisely what the fire axe is meant to convey ingame, and what the purpose of the "hooking weaponry" tag is.

@Maleclypse
Copy link
Member Author

Wood axes have it too, so I think it's hooking w/ the axe head itself, not the spike. Also, isn't the other end a "prybar" of some kind?

Thank you for pointing that out. I've corrected that and added a comment for anyone who comes trying to add it back in the future.

@github-actions github-actions bot added the BasicBuildPassed This PR builds correctly, label assigned by github actions label Jan 6, 2025
@Sunberreiy
Copy link

Why remove hooking from woodaxes, too?

As somebody who's spent a lifetime chopping firewood, the heel of a wood axe is a rather robust point and is excellent for hooking things either by the leverage its geometry provides or (more often) the grip acquired when it is pulled towards the user while swinging and the heel firmly bites into a thing. The forward-heavy weight of the axe typically makes hooking things effortless. I use the heel for pulling heavy logs across the workspace and pulling them upright for splitting all the time. I imagine hooking a limb or shoulder with an axe to be extremely easy, and I struggle to imagine any axe without a heel fit for hooking, fire axes included.

@Maleclypse
Copy link
Member Author

Why remove hooking from woodaxes, too?

As somebody who's spent a lifetime chopping firewood, the heel of a wood axe is a rather robust point and is excellent for hooking things either by the leverage its geometry provides or (more often) the grip acquired when it is pulled towards the user while swinging and the heel firmly bites into a thing. The forward-heavy weight of the axe typically makes hooking things effortless. I use the heel for pulling heavy logs across the workspace and pulling them upright for splitting all the time. I imagine hooking a limb or shoulder with an axe to be extremely easy, and I struggle to imagine any axe without a heel fit for hooking, fire axes included.

Because combat axes can be made with a hook to aid in hooking. Wood cutting axes lack a hooked edge to avoid getting caught in the wood they are cutting. The heel can be used to grab a thing that is not struggling against you super easy, A hook makes it so even something that is struggling against you can be caught and pulled easily. If someone wanted to add a less effective form of hooking technique to non-hooked blade axes I would not be opposed but the key issue here is that items that can fit for purpose as weapons are often not as effective weapons as made for purpose weapons.

@GuardianDll GuardianDll merged commit 8d40d7f into CleverRaven:master Jan 6, 2025
26 checks passed
@Maleclypse Maleclypse deleted the Fire-axe-has-a-spike-not-a-hook branch January 6, 2025 21:25
Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
astyled astyled PR, label is assigned by github actions BasicBuildPassed This PR builds correctly, label assigned by github actions [JSON] Changes (can be) made in JSON json-styled JSON lint passed, label assigned by github actions
Projects
None yet
Development

Successfully merging this pull request may close these issues.

5 participants