Make flu shot expire #40407
Make flu shot expire #40407
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Nobody is developing new vaccines; you can't just stock up on flu shots and take one every 6 months.
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Consider changing the flu shot Tacoma ranch mission to match these changes - if it's not useful after 6 months, perhaps they should be looking for something else. |
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What can the Tacoma Ranch make, then? I'm thinking aspirin or other basic medicine. |
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Maybe add some message mentioning that it won't work after it's expiration date? Maybe for characters with a few of first aid skill levels or MD profession? Otherwise people might be confused on why they get the flu even after applying the vaccine. |
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Viruses generally can't survive nor reproduce outside a living compatible host cell. |
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@Xenomorph-III They aren't making it, they want it for a quest. |
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Zombies are viable hosts, I want to adjust flu acquisition to be based on exposure to infected zombies instead of pure environmental exposure. |
That's easy enough, but that implies you knew the vaccine didn't work, in which case why would you take the shot in the first place? If anything, I think it's weird that you can positively know that the vaccine worked on you. |
How about just making the mission inaccessible for now? Content addition can go in a separate PR. Players who already have the mission will probably be confused as to how the request for flu shots at some point turned into a request for medical gloves or chicken eggs or whatever they got replaced with. |
You could then prevent taking a shot of over-expired vaccine for people with high medical skills. |
I agree, the "You no longer need to fear the flu" message (and even more so, the visible "vaccinated" status in the The flu shot item description mentions that it's still in the packaging, which suggests it may have a manufacture or expiration date printed on it. Perhaps that idea could be the basis of an alternate message, after "You inject the vaccine", say "You notice the date on the packaging is pretty old, so it may no longer be effective." Then players (especially experienced players who have gotten used to infinite vaccines) won't be confused by the lack of a "vaccinated" indicator. |
It doesn't make sense anymore unless this mission is given with 24 weeks of the start of the cataclysm, which is when flu shots expire. If you already started this mission chain, you will still get the mission.
This is for the benefit of experienced players who are used to unlimited flu vaccines. More realistic would be to have no feedback, positive or negative. Also, update the description, to hint to the player that it will not work forever.
This reverts commit e511ada.
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Shouldn't it still have some reduced effect? Or does it actually go bad? |
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Even against the strains vaccines do protect against, their potency wanes with time. Nothing lasts forever. |
pr CleverRaven#40407 removed the "fetch a flu shot" (ranch_nurse_mission_10) from the nurse doc mission sequence. Unfortunately, starting that mission triggered the map changes that spawn the Refugee Ranch doctor who can install CBMs nearly faultlessly. Clean out the "fetch a flu shot" mission JSON entirely, and add "start": "ranch_nurse_9" to the next mission's JSON definition, so that ranch doctor will spawn.
Summary
SUMMARY: Bugfixes "Make flu shot expire"
Purpose of change
Prevent the player from stocking on flu shots and taking one every six months. That's not how it works. Nobody is developing vaccines anymore, so there is no vaccine after the last flu season before the cataclysm.
Describe the solution
Check if the current turn is more than 24_weeks after the start of the cataclysm.
Describe alternatives you've considered
Testing
Tacoma ranch:
Additional context
Logical continuation of #40287