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Make JRA55-do v1.4.0 configuration(s) #155
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NCI has downloaded updates to JRA55-do here |
Since ACCESS-OM2 does not have iceberg, it sounds fine to go with the Steve's second suggestion (insert the solid runoff as if it was liquid). This can be achieved by replacing the runoff data of v1.4.0 with that of v1.3.1. |
I think, if we are not planning to include iceberg model in ACCESS-OM2 for OMIP runs, we can use v1.3.2 forcing in @hakaseh (email note) copying below, it is very clear that total runoff is equal in both version "Please be careful that from v1.3.2 and v1.4.0, total runoff is separated into liquid water (friver) and solid ice (licalvf). To obtain total runoff, friver and licalvf should be summed. In v1.3.1, friver contains total (liquid + solid) runoff". |
If we simply combine solid and liquid runoff it would be better to read the files from 1.4.0 and then sum them, since 1.3.1 does not extend to the present date and I'm not sure what yatm would do if the forcing for one field finishes early. |
I see. Then I agree to use the combined runoff of v1.4.0. would the model code need to be modified to allow conversion from solid to liquid during simulation? or modify the runoff data? I think the former would be easier considering that the dataset will likely be updated every year. |
I agree having the code combine solid and liquid would be more elegant. |
Deveopment notes from @aekiss; JRA55-do 1.4 supportJRA55-do 1.3 calving flux https://arccss.slack.com/archives/C9Q7Y1400/p1575523699033500 Russ Fiedler 4:48 PM aekiss 10:22 AM 6 Dec 2019 CHANGES REQUIREDconfiguration
forcing.yaml
namcouple
libaccessom2
cice
mom
example JRA55-do 1.4 files/g/data/qv56/replicas/input4MIPs/CMIP6/OMIP/MRI/MRI-JRA55-do-1-4-0/landIce/day/licalvf/gr/v20190429/licalvf/licalvf_input4MIPs_atmosphericState_OMIP_MRI-JRA55-do-1-4-0_gr_20180101-20181231.nc /g/data/qv56/replicas/input4MIPs/CMIP6/OMIP/MRI/MRI-JRA55-do-1-4-0/land/day/friver/gr/v20190429/friver/friver_input4MIPs_atmosphericState_OMIP_MRI-JRA55-do-1-4-0_gr_20180101-20181231.nc test runs
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4014601 2019-12-09checking with https://github.com/aekiss/notebooks/blob/master/check-MRI-JRA55-do-1-3.ipynb So try a run which reverts these fields to the ua8 versions.
4051889 see #120 (comment) comparison of runs 1-5 using these scripts
Runs 1 and 2 are identical, as expected. @aidanheerdegen also noted above that This is because the near-surface temperature and humidity ( I've also confirmed that the month and time part of the filename is identical for all years (except the final one) in each variable we use in So in summary I'm confident that PR COSIMA/libaccessom2#26 is ready to use.
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299057 Two big surprises here:
re. A: checking what files are being read:
303079 re. B above: very different MOM versions were used
looks like Aidan based his mom gadi-transition branch on an old commit, so the gadi run 6/7 used (mostly) older MOM than the rajin run 3/4. I've updated MOM gadi-transition to now use mom 97e3429. Do a run with this:
305920 Run 8 is nearly (but not quite) the same as run 7 - so the mom version makes only a small difference. Done: repeat run 6 and 4 with the updated mom - expect them to be the same (if no raijin/gadi differences)
307369 - failed - out of quota on scratch
updating exes on raijin:
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2019-12-13test runs at higher resolution on gadi
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411556 also submitted MCI help request
go this response:
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increased memory request from 2Gb to 4Gb in sync_output_to_gdata.sh
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so it got to the end of the run and died finishing. Did not get to collation or sync.
not clear what died exactly.
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so I guess more memory is needed
2019-12-20Investigating COSIMA/libaccessom2#22 (comment)
then edit
this yielded cice d3e8bdf (NB: based on gadi-transition branch, which is what I want)
then edit
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conclusion (compare with run 9): COSIMA/cice5@ab473434 is the cause of the problem for reference - not needed?"filename": "/g/data/qv56/replicas/input4MIPs/CMIP6/OMIP/MRI/MRI-JRA55-do-1-3/atmos/3hrPt/tas/gn/v20180412/tas/tas_input4MIPs_atmosphericState_OMIP_MRI-JRA55-do-1-3_gn_{{year}}01010000-{{year}}12312230.nc", "filename": "/g/data/qv56/replicas/input4MIPs/CMIP6/OMIP/MRI/MRI-JRA55-do-1-3/atmos/3hrPt/ts/gn/v20180412/ts/ts_input4MIPs_atmosphericState_OMIP_MRI-JRA55-do-1-3_gn_{{year}}01010000-{{year}}12312230.nc", "filename": "/g/data1/ua8/JRA55-do/latest/t_10.{{year}}.nc", /g/data/qv56/replicas/input4MIPs/CMIP6/OMIP/MRI/MRI-JRA55-do-1-3/ocean/day/friver/gn/v20180412/friver/friver_input4MIPs_atmosphericState_OMIP_MRI-JRA55-do-1-3_gn_20160101-20170101.nc /g/data1/ua8/JRA55-do/latest/runoff_all.2017.nc |
JRA55-do 1.4.0 (and earlier) presumably suffer from the JRA55 cyclone sign problem: #186 |
I should also note here that the |
Thanks Andrew.
I’m just wondering, is the solid runoff corrected for solid-to-liquid density difference before being combined with liquid runoff?
Regards,
Hakase
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Here's what it looks like diagrammatically
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/31054815/81232150-b3101c80-9037-11ea-827f-abee1bfa4175.png>
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Hi @hakeseh, the units for "Land Ice Calving Flux" and "Water Flux into Sea Water from Rivers" are both kg m-2 s-1. So there is no need to worry about density. However, as noted in the diagram above the heat needed to melt the ice is not accounted for. |
Thanks Nic.
Both are in the same units, but one is solid ice and another is liquid water, right? If so, should we not have to multiply the solid ice flux by the ratio of the two densities (1000 kg m-3 / 917 km m-3), if it goes into the ocean grid as liquid water? This will increase the solid runoff by about 10%.
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Hi @hakeseh, the units for
"Land Ice Calving Flux" and "Water Flux into Sea Water from Rivers" are both kg m-2 s-1. So there is no need to worry about density. However, as noted in the diagram above the heat needed to melt the ice is not accounted for.
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I'm not sure if I completely understand, however the code is not doing anything with density or volume. The (mass) flux of ice is being treated exactly as if it was an equal flux of water: runoff flux = river runoff flux + land ice flux i.e. we are working with mass flux not volume flux. There's a description of fields on page 11 or 12 https://climate.mri-jma.go.jp/~htsujino/docs/JRA55-do/v1_4-manual/User_manual_jra55_do_v1_4.pdf Let me know if this doesn't make sense. |
I see. Yes, I guess I was thinking of volume flux. I deal with ice-ocean exchange of BGC tracers which are always expressed in volumetric quantities, so got confused :-)
All good, thanks for clarification.
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I'm not sure if I completely understand, however the code is not doing anything with density or volume. The (mass) flux of ice is being treated exactly as if it was an equal flux of water:
runoff flux = river runoff flux + land ice flux
(kg m-2 s-1) = (kg m-2 s-1) + (kg m-2 s-1)
i.e. we are working with mass flux not volume flux
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This issue has been mentioned on ACCESS Hive Community Forum. There might be relevant details there: https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/what-are-the-inputs-access-om-needs-to-run/458/1 |
We will need to have a 1 deg configuration that use JRA55-do v1.4.0 (rather than 1.3.0 as used at present) if we are to make an OMIP-BGC submission for CMIP6. It would also be good to use this latest version for the other resolutions.
I've requested that NCI download this to
/g/data/qv56/replicas/input4MIPs/CMIP6/OMIP/MRI/
.Unfortunately this is not quite a drop-in replacement for version 1.3.0 and will involve a little work.
From Steve's email,
also see #120
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