Still slow 3D performance in Games in macOS with AMD cpus #5

tomnic79 · 2020-05-17T09:55:15Z

CPU: AMD Ryzen R9 3950X
GPU: AMD XFX Radeon VII 16Gb HBM2
macOS version: Catalina 10.15.4
15h/16h or 17h: 17h patches in "real" mode (OC 0.5.8)
I am using and can reproduce on the latest patches: Yes

Hi everybody, can we find a way to boost the 3d performance with AMD cpus and macOS?

I know that kernel patches are slowing down those performances... in fact if I try Proxmox (so no patches, OC 0.5.8) with my setup I can get 30% more 3d performance (eg. CineBench 15 OpenGL test) and really faster rendering in Xonotic benchmark (min fps is 15, with patches I get 5 as minimum).

Can anybody update those 17h patches? Is there any way to fix this poor 3D performance other than running Proxmox?

riverscn · 2020-05-17T15:12:37Z

try this:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tired-of-low-geekbench-scores-use-radeonboost.2231366/

tomnic79 · 2020-05-17T15:36:25Z

Thanks, but the only numbers going up are the Geekbench benchmark results... no real gains in those two tests... even Rise of the tomb raider stutters a lot!!! But the same hardware under Proxmox and without radeonboost performs at least 30% better in those tests...

Slaaash · 2020-05-27T12:10:25Z

I have got same problem with perfomance in game, results in benchmark5 are good, rx580 in opencl test has 36619 scores, in metal has 58851. But in game with the both settings fps is too low and when i resizing window in google chrome while playing video on youtube it freezes.

tomnic79 · 2020-06-06T12:14:02Z

If I put these 15h/16h patches in my config.plist I can boot:

<dict>
	<key>Base</key>
	<string>_cpuid_set_info</string>
	<key>Comment</key>
	<string>algrey - cpuid_set_info - cores and threads calculations - 10.15</string>
	<key>Count</key>
	<integer>1</integer>
	<key>Enabled</key>
	<true/>
	<key>Find</key>
	<data>
	uTUAAAAPMkjB4iCJwUgJ0bkBAAEAD0XID7fBwekQg+EP6x65NQAAAA8ySMHi
	IInBSAnRuQEAAQAPRcgPt8HB6RA=
	</data>
	<key>Identifier</key>
	<string>kernel</string>
	<key>Limit</key>
	<integer>0</integer>
	<key>Mask</key>
	<data>
	</data>
	<key>MaxKernel</key>
	<string>19.99.99</string>
	<key>MinKernel</key>
	<string>19.0.0</string>
	<key>Replace</key>
	<data>
	uAgAAIAx2zHJMdIPokGJzkUPtvZB/8ZEifFEifBmDx+EAAAAAABmDx+EAAAA
	AAAPH4QAAAAAAOl8////Dx9EAAA=
	</data>
	<key>ReplaceMask</key>
	<data>
	</data>
	<key>Skip</key>
	<integer>0</integer>
</dict>

<dict>
	<key>Base</key>
	<string>_cpuid_set_info</string>
	<key>Comment</key>
	<string>algrey - cpuid_set_info - cores and logicals count - part 2</string>
	<key>Count</key>
	<integer>1</integer>
	<key>Enabled</key>
	<true/>
	<key>Find</key>
	<data>
	uTUAAAAPMkjB4iAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=
	</data>
	<key>Identifier</key>
	<string>kernel</string>
	<key>Limit</key>
	<integer>0</integer>
	<key>Mask</key>
	<data>
	//////////////8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=
	</data>
	<key>MaxKernel</key>
	<string>18.99.99</string>
	<key>MinKernel</key>
	<string>17.0.0</string>
	<key>Replace</key>
	<data>
	ichmDx+EAAAAAABmDx+EAAAAAABmDx+EAAAAAAAPHwA=
	</data>
	<key>ReplaceMask</key>
	<data>
	</data>
	<key>Skip</key>
	<integer>0</integer>
</dict>

But if I put the tsc init of the 15h/16h patches my system cannot boot, it hangs here:

tomnic79 · 2020-06-06T12:16:34Z

...and no, booting with the two patches I posted above doesn't help graphics performance, I only get a wrong cpu cores / thread count ... we need to tweak this init tsc 15h/16h patch to make it work with zen 2 cpus and see if we can boost graphics performance:

<dict>
	<key>Base</key>
	<string></string>
	<key>Comment</key>
	<string>algrey - tsc_init - grab DID and FID from MSR</string>
	<key>Count</key>
	<integer>1</integer>
	<key>Enabled</key>
	<true/>
	<key>Find</key>
	<data>
	uZQBAAAPMonDuc4AAAAPMg+2zokNAAAAAA+2xIkFAAAAAA==
	</data>
	<key>Identifier</key>
	<string>kernel</string>
	<key>Limit</key>
	<integer>0</integer>
	<key>Mask</key>
	<data>
	////////////////////////////AAAA////////AAAA/w==
	</data>
	<key>MaxKernel</key>
	<string>19.99.99</string>
	<key>MinKernel</key>
	<string>17.0.0</string>
	<key>Replace</key>
	<data>
	uXEAAcAPMonASInBSMHpBoPgP0iDwBCA4QdI0+gPH0QAAA==
	</data>
	<key>ReplaceMask</key>
	<data>
	</data>
	<key>Skip</key>
	<integer>0</integer>
</dict>

memegauste · 2020-06-16T01:52:01Z

I wanted to test an game, I got ~25-30fps under MoltenVK->DXVK game which is FF XIV, on rx5700 XT and r5 3600. Since I own game on Windows but I don't played it so much, I don't know if this is low, but I suspect it is (will do futher testing today).

(And yes, on my Hackintosh this is not even 4K but upscaled 4K).

If anybody wants to help with performance just reply to me here.

Romanychev · 2020-06-17T04:17:08Z

3600X/RX580 - +-30fps
2700/5600XT - +-35fps.

Problem only AMD Ryzen hakintosh (9600k/RX580 - 140+ fps).
Benchmark gickbench also gives a bad result (+-30k vs 55k with intel - compare, metal).

tomnic79 · 2020-06-17T09:11:22Z

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l39ls1mh58c2tk0/VID_20200614_145659.mp4?dl=0 Minecraft, R9 3950X AMD Radeon VII @ 4k, vsync disabled - 40-60 fps

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxrl16dvz2csqmd/VID_20200614_125851.mp4?dl=0 Minecraft, R9 3950X, AMD Radeon VII @ 4k, vsync disabled... Proxmox ;) - 180-300 fps

memegauste · 2020-06-17T14:25:44Z

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l39ls1mh58c2tk0/VID_20200614_145659.mp4?dl=0 Minecraft, R9 3950X AMD Radeon VII @ 4k, vsync disabled - 40-60 fps

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxrl16dvz2csqmd/VID_20200614_125851.mp4?dl=0 Minecraft, R9 3950X, AMD Radeon VII @ 4k, vsync disabled... Proxmox ;) - 180-300 fps

Sounds like Proxmox is oddly superior, but I prefer Vanilla methods that running macOS in VM.
I'm also curious if Acidanthera couldn't fix that with some own magic, also they could implement OPEMU support but I see nobody has time and effort to do this, sadly.

I want to believe somebody will investigate that finally.

reaper69man · 2020-07-02T18:34:37Z

I'm also experiencing poor graphical performance on my newly built AMD 3950X Hackintosh with a Radeon VII when compared to my Intel 7980XE Hackintosh which also has a Radeon VII. The UI on the AMD system just doesn't feel quite as fluid and 3D performance is approx. 50% of my Intel System. Although, GPU compute performance between the two systems is comparable:

Geekbench (Metal): AMD - 103639 / Intel - 96146
Geekbench (OpenGL): AMD - 56890 / Intel - 82626
Luxmark: AMD - 50117 / Intel - 50117
Heaven (Extreme): AMD - 58.0fps / Intel - 116.7fps

I've also noticed the following error being logged very sporadically on the AMD system:

localhost kernel[0]: (IOAcceleratorFamily2) void IOAccelFenceMachine::fence_timeout(IOTimerEventSource *): AMDRadeonAccelerator prodding blockFenceInterrupt

memegauste · 2020-07-06T12:57:56Z

Yeah, and I want to note that FF XIV performance on my Windows boot is about 60 FPS on 4K maxed, and on Hackintosh it's 30FPS FullHD mid.

Some people were saying that I'm not running real mac and this is an cause, but I see this as some kind of misunderstanding. Basically Intel Hackintoshes /outperforms/ real Macs anyway and you can /game/ on them /easily/. Also you CAN'T notice 500% performance drop while using macOS on Ryzentosh, this is just unreal. The issue is somewhere in drivers, maybe 10.15.6 will fix the problem, but I don't have time to test beta 3 on my machine and then revert back. I don't know also if people tested Big Sur, and it's better or not.

Something is also different when running Hack in Proxmox VM, I suppose the issue is in kernel patches, or there is some difference beetwen native and VFIO passthrought support of Radeon.

Pavo-IM · 2020-09-07T21:36:57Z

Just wanted to add here that the patch that is causing GPU performance issues is the Fix PAT kernel patch.

tomnic79 · 2020-09-08T13:52:25Z

Tried to disable the Fix Pat kernel patch as Pavo-IM suggested, my system booted without yellow screen, it's very slow in the GUI in the first three minutes but it boots, Cinebench OpenGL score went up to promox levels ( 130 fps vs 100 fps), in Minecraft also I get 300 fps, but I get horrible graphical glitches... I think that fixing mtrr_update_action in xnu for AMD is the key to solve the issue I've opened here

tomnic79 · 2020-10-20T17:16:32Z

As Pavo said, problem solved disabling the Fix Pat patch for TRX40 users, but for every other AMD user you just need to change the replace value of the Fix Pat patch as follows:

<data>uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==</data>

I've done a video with direct comparison with the old and the new patch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r-d4jgnc2E

erenatas · 2020-11-08T23:33:51Z

As Pavo said, problem solved disabling the Fix Pat patch for TRX40 users, but for every other AMD user you just need to change the replace value of the Fix Pat patch as follows:

<data>uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==</data>

I've done a video with direct comparison with the old and the new patch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r-d4jgnc2E

I'm currently giving this a shot. Geekbench 5 OpenCL went from 44k to 50k. Thanks!

I will put the Heaven benchmark results after changing to here if it helps.
MB: X570I Aorus Pro Wifi
CPU: 3950X
GPU: Radeon VII

aleixsr · 2020-11-17T18:38:28Z

Hello, this fix works like a charm!
What I find when I changed from "uXcCAAC4BgEHALoGAQcADx9AAA==" to "uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==" gived me x10 FPS!

But I found a cons: Sound output only on DisplayPort is "glitching", do you know why?

Thank you very much.

tomnic79 · 2020-11-18T09:56:17Z

It's a "secondary" bug with some configurations, try to open audio/midi utility and adjust sample rate / bit rate of DP audio

aleixsr · 2020-11-18T17:28:24Z

Hi, I tried Audio MIDI Setup but it didn't help, do you have any idea?

mame-erl · 2020-12-21T09:28:26Z

As Pavo said, problem solved disabling the Fix Pat patch for TRX40 users, but for every other AMD user you just need to change the replace value of the Fix Pat patch as follows:

<data>uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==</data>

Can confirm this highly increasing 3D performance on my 10.15.7 / Ryzen 7 3700X / Sapphire RX5600XT Hackintosh. Thank you!

aleixsr · 2020-12-21T09:40:24Z

Yes I can confirm competely.

W-KE · 2021-03-19T12:12:47Z

As Pavo said, problem solved disabling the Fix Pat patch for TRX40 users, but for every other AMD user you just need to change the replace value of the Fix Pat patch as follows:

<data>uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==</data>

I've done a video with direct comparison with the old and the new patch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r-d4jgnc2E

Confirmed fix working and no issue with DP audio after applying Shaneee - mtrr_update_action - fix PAT

Got around 25fps with algrey - mtrr_update_action - fix PAT and around 300fps with Shaneee - mtrr_update_action - fix PAT in Minecraft.

Should get Shaneee - mtrr_update_action - fix PAT [my default] : Full FPS on gaming but issues using HDMI/DP audio. according to this repo https://github.com/aleixsr/Ryzentosh.
But I haven't got any audio issue with DP.

Component	Model
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
RAM	64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 @2666MHz CL16
Mobo	ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
Graphics	GIGABYTE Radeon™ RX 5700 XT 8G Reference
OC	0.6.3

The previous value seemed to be for TRX40 users, changing to the correct value yields much better graphical performance. AMD-OSX/bugtracker#5 (comment) WARNING: This may break displayport, look at the issue for further info regarding the patch

GabSan1212 · 2024-02-08T07:14:25Z

Hello, this fix works like a charm! What I find when I changed from "uXcCAAC4BgEHALoGAQcADx9AAA==" to "uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==" gived me x10 FPS!

But I found a cons: Sound output only on DisplayPort is "glitching", do you know why?

Thank you very much.

How u changed it?

aleixsr · 2024-02-08T08:12:19Z

Hello, this fix works like a charm! What I find when I changed from "uXcCAAC4BgEHALoGAQcADx9AAA==" to "uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==" gived me x10 FPS!
But I found a cons: Sound output only on DisplayPort is "glitching", do you know why?
Thank you very much.

How u changed it?

Using ProperTree is the easyest way.

GabSan1212 · 2024-02-08T08:16:34Z

Hello, this fix works like a charm! What I find when I changed from "uXcCAAC4BgEHALoGAQcADx9AAA==" to "uXcCAAC4BgYGBroGBgYGDzAPCQ==" gived me x10 FPS!
But I found a cons: Sound output only on DisplayPort is "glitching", do you know why?
Thank you very much.

How u changed it?

Using ProperTree is the easyest way.

what option I need to change here

aleixsr · 2024-02-08T08:48:06Z

Change Enabled to True at #20 and Enabled to False at #21.

GabSan1212 · 2024-02-08T08:54:45Z

Change Enabled to True at #20 and Enabled to False at #21.

Anything else?

aleixsr · 2024-02-08T08:56:51Z

Change Enabled to True at #20 and Enabled to False at #21.

Anything else?

Restart and try :)

GabSan1212 · 2024-02-08T08:59:53Z

Change Enabled to True at #20 and Enabled to False at #21.

Anything else?

Restart and try :)

When im playing minecraft (for example) i get like 60-80 unestable fps with this config, do you know why?

naveenkrdy transferred this issue from AMD-OSX/AMD_Vanilla Jun 27, 2020

memegauste mentioned this issue Sep 7, 2020

Fix yellow screen in WhateverGreen on Ryzen systems when mtrr_update_action (fix PAT) is disabled acidanthera/bugtracker#1137

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rockofox mentioned this issue Jul 4, 2021

Change fixpat value for much better graphical performance portrayer/Hackintosh-Ryzen-MSI-B450I#54

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