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[Request]: New Name! #2

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AtomikkuSan opened this issue Apr 5, 2022 · 20 comments · Fixed by #60
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[Request]: New Name! #2

AtomikkuSan opened this issue Apr 5, 2022 · 20 comments · Fixed by #60
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issue: license having to do with license/licensing state: blocked Something is blocking action. type: infrastructure improvements or additions to project infrastructure work: complicated The situation is complicated, good practices used.

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@AtomikkuSan
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AtomikkuSan commented Apr 5, 2022

Description of the new feature / enhancement

When I was first developing this mod, I originally named it Shuttle Engines Rebuilt and I'd like to name this continuation with something similar. I'd want to rename it to Space Shuttle Engines Reflown.

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Change the Repo name.

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zer0Kerbal commented Apr 5, 2022

we should leave the name as is - better title/brand recognition, that is if we get the permission from the original copyright holder -

will ask @dtobi later today.

@AtomikkuSan, repo is not ready yet. Have massive amount to do before anything is done to it. Will finish it once I finish prepping GA

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AtomikkuSan commented Apr 5, 2022

Wouldn't @sarbian be a better person to ask?

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zer0Kerbal commented Apr 5, 2022

Wouldn't @sarbian be a better person to ask?

he has already consented, but according to the OP in the KSP forums, and his thread - @dtobi requires asking him, the original and only copyright/trademark holder (because of the CC ND clause of the license).

That will happen later today.

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@AtomikkuSan
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Okay, thanks for the clarification!

I really hate the ND clause, it makes mod developing a lot harder, especially on the legal front.

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zer0Kerbal commented Apr 5, 2022

Okay, thanks for the clarification!

I really hate the ND clause, it makes mod developing a lot harder, especially on the legal front.

respecting the original author's wishes, and just general respect in general.

yes, it can be a PITA, and many Many MANY mods have died because of this, but at the same time it has kept several key mods alive.

experience has taught me to go very carefully with licenses and make sure get the full permission. which we will get. :D

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yes, it can be a PITA, and many Many MANY mods have died because of this, but at the same time it has kept several key mods alive.

Which ones stayed alive?

experience has taught me to go very carefully with licenses and make sure get the full permission. which we will get. :D

I can't wait!

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dtobi commented Apr 5, 2022

Hi guys. What's up?

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Hi guys. What's up?

Welcome @dtobi ! Just about to shoot an dm to you et al on the KSP forums concerning adopting. With a CC ND 3.0 license must dot i's, cross t's, and zip the zeds.

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@AtomikkuSan just want to verify your forum name so I can include you in the adoption letter. AtomicTech correct?

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zer0Kerbal commented Apr 6, 2022

@ dtobi - KSP Forum Direct Message sent. Also has my email address.

@AtomikkuSan I don't expect you to want to help with all of them - but I suspect you will want to. :D

I think I got all of them, all except:

  • SmartParts (CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0) was adopted by linuxgurugamer
  • CoolRockets is by Sarbian now, am sure he wants to keep it. 👍

@zer0Kerbal zer0Kerbal added issue: license having to do with license/licensing type: infrastructure improvements or additions to project infrastructure work: complicated The situation is complicated, good practices used. state: blocked Something is blocking action. labels Apr 6, 2022
@zer0Kerbal zer0Kerbal added this to the 2.4.0.0-adoption milestone Apr 6, 2022
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OH YES, IT'S (MOD DEVELOPING) SHOWTIME!

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@AtomikkuSan just want to verify your forum name so I can include you in the adoption letter. AtomicTech correct?

Yep!

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@dtobi can we rename the project to Space Shuttle Engines Reflown and, more or less, rename every part with a more technical sounding names and better descriptions?

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@AtomikkuSan I don't expect you to want to help with all of them - but I suspect you will want to. :D

So, which ones do we have?

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dtobi commented Apr 7, 2022

@dtobi can we rename the project to Space Shuttle Engines Reflown and, more or less, rename every part with a more technical sounding names and better descriptions?

Would Klockheed Martian stay as brand name? In general, I’m fine with Space Shuttle Engines Reflown. It would be nice if you would still credit me as original author, though.

Otherwise you’re free to rename parts, change code or add new models, of course.

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zer0Kerbal commented Apr 7, 2022

Klockheed Martian

@dtobi I personally prefer keeping the brand intact - so keeping the wonderful pun Klockheed Martian as manufacturer, agency, and total brand. Changing the name of the add-on is not my first choice because it is disrespectful to you and all the hard graft you put into it in the first place. Changing the name also sends players the wrong message.


@dtobi legally can't until we have an answer to the forum's direct message since the license is CC ND. This is because the original source of the files and license comes from the forums and not GitHub.

The permission must come from the original source.

Just doing the legal due diligence.

Mahalo nui loa!

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@dtobi can we rename the project to Space Shuttle Engines Reflown and, more or less, rename every part with a more technical sounding names and better descriptions?

Would Klockheed Martian stay as brand name? In general, I’m fine with Space Shuttle Engines Reflown. It would be nice if you would still credit me as original author, though.

Otherwise you’re free to rename parts, change code or add new models, of course.

I'm okay with all the current parts staying under Klockheed Martian, but can I change any of the new parts to be under AtomicTech Inc.?

@AtomikkuSan
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@zer0Kerbal, I've updated all the new pull requests to have Klockheed Martian as their manufacterer.

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new parts

👍

just waiting on @dtobi to reply to the forum direct message; it's a sticky pickle this conundrum we find ourselves facing, need a pickle jar opener
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VIWdRg__PM

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nearly in business now.

converting this to a discussion.

will keep everyone informed also will update here as the repo is prepared, hopefully my schedule will allow me to prioritize this wonderous parts add-on.

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