Adds bloodthirster Rav strain

[TiviPlus]

About The Pull Request

Numbers are REALLY in doubt

Adds the bloodthirster rav strain, intended to lean more into the aggressive risk taking that rav does

Bloodthirster has the bloodthirst mechanic, which more or less means it only gets plasma through slashes, plasma decays when not attacking enemies, and not attacking for a while deals damage to you until you're down to 100hp
But if you deal damage you get longer ranges and stronger charge and ravage, and rage speed bonus is multiplied

Primo:
Deathmark
Mark yourself for death, deal 400 damage in 40 seconds or die but you get speed buffs and full rage for the duration

Why It's Good For The Game

variety or something

Changelog

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add: Added the bloodthirster ravager strain, which takes damage when not dealing damage, but gets buffs from dealing a lot of damage
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[Naaanii]

Holy based...

[Xander3359]

Captain, another ravager has hit the ground side.

[demir-pl]

now this is a GOOD PR (speedmerge NOW)
design good - idea amazing - more combat? FANTASTIC love that

thinking about stats i would love to suggest:

-max health would be nice but maybe that's too much? - 500/550?
maybe make bloodthirst level increase health + sunder multi? instead of just plasma (more rewards for damage)
-raising bomb armor to 20 25 so you don't get 1 shot by sadars or can take few nades, maybe make make bomb armor/armor grow with bloodthirst
-important would be raising endure health (i would say up to -150/200 health instead of -100)
-raising the bloodthirst decay health to a reasonable 150? so you aren't a sitting duck for a sniper

also if he is meant to be more combat focused (he will die without dealing damage its combat to the max) i ask (demand) for ability cooldown change - i would say 50% compared to base rav (30 seconds instead of 60 on endure/rage - 10 seconds on charge - ravage to 5 seconds?)

last note would be testing how possible is 400 damage in 40 seconds (probably moderate difficulty but who knows...)

but that's just my dumb thoughts without knowledge/testing

HOLY SHIT THIS SOUNDS SO GOOD AUGH!!!! TIME TO GET 1 TAPPED OFF SCREEN BY REQ SLOP WITH NO COUNTER!!! WOOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!! (jk actually loving it)

[DrAmazing343]

I like the idea but ultimately I think aside from a cooldown reduction we gotta be reaaaal careful with the numbers. Really good normal ravs are super fucking hard to kill, but also solo murder machines. This would turn those ravs into genuinely unkillable colombian murder machines on crack.

[iforgotmeword]

i say bump that min HP to like 180 or something like that
100HP for a rav (big target) is not much
also any change in it's sprites?

also also do something for when high jacking being stuck with min HP because you killed all of the marines shouldn't be a thing

also also also death mark seems busted? 40 secs is a very long time

[Arturlang]

Current normal rav isn't really in a good spot right now, doesn't feel like it competes with the other buffed xenos all that well, would be fun to see how this one works out.
Rav in general has really needed extra endure health as most things will just pop you before you can do anything, relegating endure/rage to a escape tool.

[Arturlang]

So, assuming that the rav only really slashes to try to fulfill deathmark's 400 damage threshold, as COMSIG_XENOMORPH_ATTACK_LIVING outputs xeno's slash damage times whatever damage modifier it has, but I'll just assume it's 25 as it usually is, 400/25, means you need to do 16 slashes to not die, which means you'd probably have to kill two marines just to not die, unless they're incredibly tanky because of tyr 2.
Though i'm not really accounting for charge as that can multihit easily

[demir-pl]

tbh 16 slashes isn't that much but might get fucky if you're focused - but full rage is really good since you well.. have full rage - FULL HEAL + temp sunder(like rage) would also be huge, but it might be bit far (but it is primo ability after all)

[Arturlang]

Means you have 2.5 seconds to do each slash or you'll simply run out of time.

[demir-pl]

Think that 40 seconds is doable since you can slash prerty fast but only tm can show us - also timer in some way would be good - maybe same as time until endure/rage runs out? Screen effects too maybe? Or maybe a glowy aura changing on time - something so you aren't surprised how fast 40 seconds passed

[Arturlang]

Just use the screen timer thingy or do a similar thing on the mob itself

[Pariah919]

wait the ravage and endure are 0 cost? what's the point of plasma?
This generally seems like a straight upgrade.

[Lumipharon]

maybe out of scope, but all these funny xeno mob action checks should presumably be handled via signals

[TiviPlus]

shrug prolly

[Lumipharon]

Also xenos still can't strainswap themselves, and normal ravs come up as bloodthirsters in the hive list

[AndroidMK2]

How long until the damage taking from not slashing kicks in?

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[blackdav123]

health reduction mechanic doesnt work right because it deals damage to you which gives rage and resets the timer for reducing health.

[demir-pl]

you cant caste swap since you keep taking damage/not enough plasma

[Technical-l]

played a bit of bloodthirster and i just wanna detail some of the things i experienced here

endure is completely broken right now, if you enter crit while under the effects of endure, you instantly die

getting to max rage and keeping it there doesn't seem to be that difficult at all. So long as you fight semi-regularly, rage becomes a non-factor in how you play.

The death mark primo is ABSURDLY fast. Faster than old bull primo fast. I don't think i've ever seen a xeno move as fast as a raging deathmarked bloodthirster before. It actually makes it really hard to hit marines, but i've only played with it once before i got the hang of the abilities.

as it stands right now, bloodthirster seems to be a straight upgrade from rav. It'd be wildly OP if endure wasn't broken right now, and i don't really think the bloodthirsters rage mechanics are in a good spot right now. It doesn't feel much like a berserker right now, more just a rav who traded endure for extra range.

[Runian]

bloodthirster uses a different path (/endure/nocost) so i don't think this works correctly.

[TiviPlus]

good catch this was probably it

[blackdav123]

the ranged ravage goes through walls which is goofy

[MLGTASTICa]

I'd change the rage mechanic to be acquired only through succesfully employing ravage/charge through people and for it to be used up on slashes to increase damage instead. As of now you can keep it maxed out all the time with just regular combat and it doesnt do a whole lot.