When marking news, add tags

[knasdk]

It would be great to be able to add tags to the news when marking them.

[BernhardPosselt]

Can you elaborate? Usecase?

[knasdk]

Hi. The bookmark app in owncloud have a feature to tag the bookmarks. Google news has it too. You can add tags to the items - you know like "archive" items with keywords... Does it make sense?

[BernhardPosselt]

@knasdk you mean folders?

[knasdk]

A picture tells the story better, I thing...

[BernhardPosselt]

@knasdk what benefit does it give you? I mean what do you gain from tagging all the items?

[BernhardPosselt]

K, i checked the feature on google reader and i think its "shit work" (ref: http://zachholman.com/posts/shit-work/)

The news app allows you to store items for later by staring them. If search is implemented at a given point of time this will also help you to find things. Items that are not starred and are read are deleted, so the feature wouldnt make much sense anyways :)

IMO what you want is to save items for later and yout want them to be easy to find. If so, the solution is search #185.

Closing this henceforth.

[cosenal]

NO tags in the News app ever!

[jancborchardt]

Good call @Raydiation and good summary @zimba12 ;)

Btw, if there’s tags in any app (like Bookmarks), these should be exposed globally so that not every app has their own set of tags cc @eMerzh . If you don’t know what I mean or why the only way tags are useful is when they are shared, watch the latest Apple keynote.

[BernhardPosselt]

@jancborchardt dunno, watched the keynote, didnt like it :) just my opinion

[jancborchardt]

Yeah, I just mean the part about that tags are available across apps. ;)

[tanghus]

For one: I don't like replies to comments from users of our apps as being "shit work". And that article in itself is shit work ;)
That is the attitude that drove people away from KDE - in it's early days, and from what I can see Gnome/Unity in their current editions.
Tagging - in whatever form it is - is the way to organize data. If your attendance span is beyond a few hours, you will have to tag data. I don't use bookmarks to look through a menu - I use them to tag web pages with keywords to be able to remember them.

Tagging is an abstraction layer from the traditional tree hierarchy - and very needed.

For the practical part, we do have a library for tagging/categorizing, that allows for both app specific and inter-app specific tagging. To be honest the methods for using tags between apps aren't yet present, but the backend is there, it's stable, tested and begging to be used.

[jancborchardt]

What drove people away from KDE is that it doesn’t look good and has a bunch of settings. ;)

@tanghus What Bernhard means by »shit work« is that people should not need to spend time manually organizing their content, for example by tagging. Software should be intelligent enough to automatically organize it. In most modern apps there is no »tree hierarchy« anymore, there’s just a big load of data, a long list if you want. The important part is how we display it, how we design the output, and which filters we offer – not what we make people put in in the beginning.

[BernhardPosselt]

@jancborchardt you mean that it has a bunch of settings that don't work ;)