What would you replace Oxford's PPE course with if you wanted a degree fit for future leaders? #487
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An amazing post, thanks for all these references and context setting @rufuspollock. I am in contact with the Danish alternative entrepreneurship Masters school KaosPilot on a very similar topic, I'd love to bring them into this discussion https://www.kaospilot.dk/. They've been going for over 30 years, and have tried to bridge the academic with entrepreneurial direct actions. I love the Psychology, Politics and Ecology descriptions and moving these along a line of innovation and new framing. Without yet formulating a polished contribution, I'm drawn to using the Transcendentals to inform the design - what are the fundamental contrasting truths that the human condition is called to "coordinate" - i.e. The Good, True and Beautiful...The Morals, Sciences and Arts... Just a bit of fun to connect some dots, your new PPE matches I propose is this possible sequence: Of course, you and I have mentioned William Irwin Thompson's amazing work with the Ross School curriculum (https://spiral.ross.org/spiral/#/) - see #387 |
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Oh - very interesting, Rufus! I'll add some ideas based on the draft syllabus of my http://Relevant.Education project. It's not conceived of as a degree-level or style of education. Rather, the underlying premise is that we are heading for a transition, and our best chance of having it be a transformative rather than a dystopic transition is to have enough people with enough of a clue to be able to participate in meaningful conversations. The "syllabus" is a big bunch of topics related to my ideas of what it means to have a clue. (Actually, the syllabus is an outline of what was to be a book, but it's become far too big, so it's now a draft syllabus for the Relevant.Education project as a whole.) This sort of discussion is exactly what I need right now, so am very happy to get involved. Will post details later. My acronym will be CRGOCP. So -20 points, I suppose. Alex |
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Repost. Thanks for heads up @rufuspollock For me - as a former PPEist who loved their degree but defnitely saw it's limitations, particularly around curriculum but also the pretty siloed approach to interdisciplinarity - it'd be less about setting out particular fields/disciplines (while of course necessary to some degree) but a different manner of teaching that goes further into transdisciplinary. I'd want to see a course that gave open ended briefs to explore "big questions" (both at the level of how we organise our societies and how we see ourselves as humans etc), ideally with lots more working in groups. I'd want the course to steer students towards a holistic and integrative way of looking at and tackling such questions from multiple angles. Within reason (and while you'd of course need some scaffolding of knowledge etc) I'd even say it would be better to not specify the fields or intellectual traditions which should be used to encourage diversity and creativity. I think Geoff Mulgan talks along these lines in his book on social and political imagination, which I definitely resonated with. |
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I've actually been thinking a lot about education these past days, and not least about my own role as a teacher. My thoughts have, however, revolved around children and adolescents. The term "leadership" made me think about all that so-called leadership training that you find in our circles, something I reckon is somewhat beyond my expertise given that my experience with working in teams, or telling other people what to do, is rather limited. When it comes to how we should reform our education system I could write a book about it, or at least a substantial paper -- which I'll refrain from doing in the thread. Daniel and I are currently putting a mm course together. I'll gladly share it with you once we're done. |
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I am not born and bread British, but have heard of Oxford PPE degree. Then the question could be asked: do we want the future UK to still be run by the graduates of the same college? Why? If so, then the purpose of adapting the curriculum would seem to be: maintaining the status quo... would it not? |
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Maybe it could be Psychology Ecology Philosophy Politics Economics 3.0 (Doughnut) Economics etc Run it at Schumacher College. |
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I keep thinking about "what we need to know" - as leaders or "just" participants in the transition... and I keep coming back to the idea that, even more important than knowing stuff is the ability to loosen our knowing. Not hold it rigidly. To question our assumptions as deeply as possible. Down to metaphysical assumptions if I had my way. I don't know how much Oxford's PPE is set up to do this or simply to pass on the received wisdom of the academic elders, but any replacement should include a massive dose of assumption questioning... which, of course, requires teachers who are not already indoctrinated. |
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Indian Gov National Education Policy 2020https://www.education.gov.in/sites/upload_files/mhrd/files/NEP_Final_English_0.pdf Someone just pointed me to this doc.
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Thanks for reviving this really interesting topic (disclosure: my degree was Physics and Philosophy at Oxford...) Right now, for all the virtues of Oxford and Cambridge in terms of academic excellence, like @JayFliz I wouldn't run this from any traditional university, as I see them as either too stuck in tradition, or too much morphed into businesses to make money — competitively of course. While acknowledging and celebrating the great strides towards more inclusivity that have been taken, I'd say there's still an awful long way to go until we get even an intellectual education that is effectively open to all, let alone an emotional one. The setting would therefore link up with our conversations on DDSs. (And I'd be particularly interested in what some of our newer people would say on this (such as Isabela, who I don't see here.) Getting a good overall framework seems like a great idea, and I'm interested by the 1st-2nd-3rd person frame of @baouroux above. Separately, I'd like to see the emphasis, not on learning one particular thread (though that's highly defensible) but on the recognition and understanding of divergent worldviews / personal ontologies, along with the psychological and sociological correlates of these. So, sure, some philosophy (not just the history of philosophy from Descartes to Kant!); some psychology, including cognitive biases, and the collective effects both good and bad, also anthropology and evolutionary psychology; some history (as e.g. Iain McGilchrist would argue), and certainly not focusing on kings and battles. I'd like to see some treatment of the interplay of the spiritual and the religious, right the way across philosophy, history, politics and psychology; and also a sound appreciation of the strengths and weaknesses of science and scientific method. This may be rather biassed, but I would like to see young people educated in the cognitive sciences, extending psychology to computational modelling and AI, along with its potential and its fundamental limitations (if you believe that!!!) Recognising that I've set out too much to be covered properly in a three-year degree course, at a time of life when young adults are in any case in some kind of process of self-discovery, I'd like to see students forming strong coalitions where different individuals go deep into different specialisms, but keep talking with each other, cross-referencing and cross-pollinating the fruits of their study. We could see this also as embodied in a framework of collective study, collective intelligence, collective wisdom, beyond (rather than overlooking) the individualism of the "enlightenment", in order to foster a genuine humility of individual intellect. |
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Oxford's PPE course is the degree for political leaders, at least in the UK
PPE as it currently stands is a course of the past both in content and purpose
What would be a curriculum for future leaders?
Aka: what is a "metamodern" leadership curriculum?
A first suggestion: Psychology, Politics and Ecology
A first suggestion (tongue in cheek 😜): Psychology, Politics and Ecology
📣 Suggestions welcome -- bonus if you can fit the acronym! 📣
Background
Back in 2019/2020 we were looked for young graduates to contribute at Life Itself. We were lucky to have many (great) applicants. It was noticeable that several of them had done an Oxford degree called "PPE" or Philosophy, Politics and Economics.
Now, if you're not British you probably never heard of PPE. But in the UK it's legendary degree that "runs Britain" -- huge numbers of the UK's top politicos and pundits have done it including several of the last prime ministers and leaders.1
You could see this as the exemplar curriculum for training the leaders of today -- and tomorrow (or at least training, the ambitious and conscientious). Now in some ways it's a pretty awesome: it's interdisciplinary (rare in the UK) and at least it has some philosophy in there (surely a good idea to have a bit of ethics and metaphysics in there for our future leaders).
But ... in many ways its content seem pretty outdated. And it doesn't seem to always be producing the leaders we need ...
I started to try to imagine a replacement. What would a PPE of the future be? Trying to keep the acronym a first idea was: Psychology, Politics and Ecology ...
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see e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/23/ppe-oxford-university-degree-that-rules-britain "Monday, 13 April 2015 was a typical day in modern British politics. An Oxford University graduate in philosophy, politics and economics (PPE), Ed Miliband, launched the Labour party’s general election manifesto. It was examined by the BBC’s political editor, Oxford PPE graduate Nick Robinson, by the BBC’s economics editor, Oxford PPE graduate Robert Peston, and by the director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, Oxford PPE graduate Paul Johnson. It was criticised by the prime minister, Oxford PPE graduate David Cameron. It was defended by the Labour shadow chancellor, Oxford PPE graduate Ed Balls." ↩ ↩2
Greats is Oxfords's previous classics oriented "leadership" degree - the one Boris Johnson did. Over 50% of UK's prime ministers were educated at Oxford (30 of 57 - vs just 16 at Cambridge). ↩
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