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Proposed new interestType: 'unknown-interest' #276

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ScatteredInk opened this issue Feb 10, 2020 · 9 comments
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Proposed new interestType: 'unknown-interest' #276

ScatteredInk opened this issue Feb 10, 2020 · 9 comments

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@ScatteredInk
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For cases where:

  • There is a known interested party;
  • There is an ooc statement between an entity and an interested party;
  • There is known to be an interest between the subject and the interested party but no details of the interest are known.
@stevenday stevenday added this to the 1.0 Release Candidate milestone Jul 16, 2020
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kd-ods commented Sep 11, 2020

Just noting that there's a need for this in Latvia.

@siwhitehouse
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The change to the schema is straightforward: an addition to the interest-type codelist.

I think there is a need for documentation with examples. As I understand it, from the description, unknown-interest should not be used for an unknown interested party. My assumption is that it should be used for an anonymous interested party.

Documentation that includes examples for a registeredEntity, anonymousEntity and unknownEntity would be useful here.

@siwhitehouse siwhitehouse changed the title Add an 'unknown-interest' interest type Proposed new interestType: 'unknown-interest' Jan 18, 2021
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@kd-ods Can we just infer an unknown interest from the absence of an explicitly declared interest or do you think it is better to add this and have guidance that it is better to be explicit about the lack of information on the interest?

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kd-ods commented Mar 1, 2021

@ScatteredInk - So, practically, this is the difference between an ownership-or-control statement like:

{
  "statementType": "ownershipOrControlStatement"
  "interests": []
}

And:

{
  "statementType": "ownershipOrControlStatement"
  "interests": [
    {
    "type": "unknown-interest"
    }
  ]
}

I think we need to push for the latter, and provide guidance as you suggest. (In terms of why info is missing, an empty array is unhelpful whereas the latter option communicates 'the publisher has collected information here: no information is known about the interest''.)

I also think there are likely to be cases where - eg - the start date of an interest is known, but not its actual type. In which case we do need this 'unknown-interest' option.

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kd-ods commented Apr 8, 2021

Thinking through the types of unknown and missing information, we also need a 'redacted' interest type. This is where the publisher knows the type of an interest but will not publish that information. (It is comparable, in informational terms, to anonymous entities and individuals.)

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kd-ods commented Nov 1, 2021

@siwhitehouse - So my implementation proposal is that we add to the interest type codelist:

unknownInterest
The interestedParty is known to have an interest in the subject of this Ownership-or-control Statement, but the nature of the interest is unknown.

redactedInterest
The nature of this interest is known but cannot be published.

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@kd-ods unknownInterest looks good to me. I think that we should use unpublishedInterest instead of redacted, as redacted indicates that something has been edited.

The changes that I'll make to the interestType codelist will be

code title description
unknownInterest Unknown interest The interestedParty is known to have an interest in the subject of this Ownership-or-control Statement, but the nature of the interest is unknown.
unpublishedInterest Unpublished interest The nature of this interest is known but is not published.

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This has been implemented and pushed up as a commit on the simon-369-interest-types branch.

As this is one of a number of changes to the interestTypes codelist I will make a PR when the remaining changes have been committed to the branch.

See #369 for the feature ticket describing the full list of potential changes to the codelist.

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Merged

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