[docs-infra] Diamond sponsors docs layout

[ChetSocio]

Summary 💡

It seems you have changed the documentation layout in #38410

But it is far more disturbing than helping us. Why did you stick the sponsor's tab in the bottom specifically when every mui user needs to search for components deep down? Also, we get little space to look for the components list.

Examples 🌈

https://mui.com/material-ui/getting-started/installation/

Motivation 🔦

This layout is irritating as hell. The previous layout was quite good and we could see sponsors before components and we had no problem as it was not irritating us. Now it is irritating really.

[danilo-leal]

Hey there @ChetSocio, appreciate the feedback! Our intention with the change was to improve the navigation experience by removing the sponsors from the front & center and giving the side nav content more visibility at first glance at the docs ⎯ but your perspective is valuable and we hadn't considered it before, so thanks again!

To confirm it then, the sponsors being fixed at the bottom is hurting your navigation as you usually are scrolling deep on the list of components?

[ChetSocio]

yes really, the way it was organized previously was really good and never irritated us.I myself as a visitor loved that and never was a problem when scrolling for components. We could see sponsors as well as downward navigation was a good experience. The way it is now is distrubing as well as irritating . Hope you will do anything about that

[oliviertassinari]

It feels strange for me too: #38050 (comment).

For now, I don't know if it's because I'm not used to it yet or if something is fundamentally off.

In the latter case ("fundamentally off"), I think that it would be because I tend to expand the navigation at the bottom of my screen, the items I need to see are hidden behind the Dimond sponsors. So each time I can't help myself thinking that if it wasn't for the Diamond sponsors, I could scroll less.

[oliviertassinari]

I'm reopening as we are testing different layouts at this point (directly in production). I think we can update this issue once we settle on a direction.

Right now, we have them in the TOCs:

We are monitoring the impact in: https://analytics.google.com/analytics/web/#/analysis/p353089763/edit/Krwta0OiQ4mQJBZuOexXQA.

[oliviertassinari]

A different type of execution, the first time I see this kind: https://formkit.com/getting-started/what-is-formkit puts the diamond sponsors in a sticky position.

Screen.Recording.2023-09-01.at.19.09.01.mov

[ChetSocio]

I am not an contributor to this project but still I think you can put banner ad on top of component's page or footer if advertisement is that much essential. Because in my opinion, if a customer is irritated by the way the ad is placed, then there is rare chance of him/her visiting the sponsor's page thus reducing ctr and conversion. I like the way some websites put the develper-friendly ads on top of web page contents and it is mostly related with programmer's interests. I think MUI also has done it.

[ChetSocio]

A different type of execution, the first time I see this kind: https://formkit.com/getting-started/what-is-formkit puts the diamond sponsors in a sticky position.

Screen.Recording.2023-09-01.at.19.09.01.mov

Yes, this is acceptable as it will serve it's purpose as well as won't distrub devs

[danilo-leal]

@oliviertassinari Shall we close this one as per the recent email thread you sent out about this topic?

[ChetSocio]

Yup I am closing this as you seem to have done what i was thinking and now its a lot better on right side . You got many benefits: its easy to click on right side than left side, its now visible properly, it is not distrubing devs anymore. Thanks

[oliviertassinari]

Shall we close this one as per the recent email thread you sent out about this topic?

@danilo-leal the thread in question: https://groups.google.com/a/mui.com/g/core/c/NMMUNFCsayM.

Yes, I think we can close. With the data we have available the current placement seems to be our least worth option.

Another angel I didn't use in that thread: considering the alternative libraries we compete with, this ad placement seems to be the one that has the least potential to negatively differentiate us.