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A lot of Kerning inconsistencies #59

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oomek opened this issue Jan 12, 2020 · 10 comments
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A lot of Kerning inconsistencies #59

oomek opened this issue Jan 12, 2020 · 10 comments
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@oomek
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oomek commented Jan 12, 2020

First of all I love this font, but it breaks my heart when I see that kerning tables are still half baked. At least it's what's FontLab is showing. Freetype2 library is making it even worse at small sizes, unfortunately.

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@forsgren
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forsgren commented Sep 7, 2021

+1

Was about to use this, but "2019" also ended up with poor kerning. Hoping this can be fixed.

@jpt
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jpt commented Sep 22, 2021

Hi all, thanks for pointing this out. I think this broke because I brought in kerning from iKern but didn't bring in the classes? I will have to look. But honestly it's not a lot of masters, I should just re-kern the whole thing once I fix the other glyph-level issues.

@oomek
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oomek commented Sep 22, 2021

Thanks for reply. That's what I did in FontLab ;) Manually re-kerned the missing pairs

@jpt
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jpt commented Oct 19, 2021

this is fixed in https://github.com/jpt/barlow/tree/1.5 - I have rekerned the font. new font binaries coming soon.

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jpt commented Oct 21, 2021

binaries available here for testing: https://github.com/jpt/barlow/tree/1.5/fonts

@forsgren
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Seems to be improved now 👍

@forsgren
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There still seems to be some issues in the black italic variant. A few of the pairs I think it is a bit off between:

  • "SW"
  • "OY"
  • "SIG" (not quite sure about this one, to me it's the capital i that looks a bit "off center" between S and G)
  • "ON"
  • "CO"

@jpt
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jpt commented Nov 27, 2021

Thanks for reporting - along with #74 I think there is a growing case to seriously look into #11. As it is, the kerning is probably not even receiving the correct offset as the slant is applied in the export process.

@jpt jpt added this to the Barlow 1.5 milestone Nov 27, 2021
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forsgren commented Nov 27, 2021

I had a quick look among the upright characters as well. Based on the previous listing I find that at least these are quite noticeable there as well:

  • "SW"
  • "OY"

These are less so:

  • "ON"
  • "SIG"
  • "CO"

The slant being applied in the export can be one potential cause, but I would guess there still might be some issues among the upright versions.

This is in no way a comprehensive "inspection", just a few I noticed in a current personal design I'm working on :)

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jpt commented Dec 1, 2021

yeah, there are multiple issues with the way I set up Kern On (as based on previously set pairs) — this is all on the list :)

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