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[A380X] FCU ALT ABOVE/BELOW A/C on FMA (Batch 7) #9410

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beheh opened this issue Nov 5, 2024 · 7 comments · May be fixed by #9674
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[A380X] FCU ALT ABOVE/BELOW A/C on FMA (Batch 7) #9410

beheh opened this issue Nov 5, 2024 · 7 comments · May be fixed by #9674
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@beheh
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beheh commented Nov 5, 2024

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In batch 7 two new messages have been introduced:

  • FCU ALT ABOVE A/C
  • FCU ALT BELOW A/C

These show when you're VS/FPA and not protected by ALT. For example, climbing with V/S and FCU ALT below current altitude would result in "FCU ALT BELOW A/C", and vice-versa.

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@beheh beheh added the Request New feature or request label Nov 5, 2024
@beheh beheh changed the title [A380X] Batch 7: FCU ALT ABOVE/BELOW below FMA [A380X] Batch 7: FCU ALT ABOVE/BELOW A/C on FMA Nov 5, 2024
@beheh beheh added the Good First Issue Good for newcomers label Nov 5, 2024
@beheh beheh changed the title [A380X] Batch 7: FCU ALT ABOVE/BELOW A/C on FMA [A380X] FCU ALT ABOVE/BELOW A/C on FMA (Batch 7) Nov 5, 2024
@beheh beheh added the A380X Related to the A380X aircraft label Nov 5, 2024
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Pruznak commented Dec 18, 2024

Hello, are there any references for this ? My FCOM doesn't mention these messages (maybe because it's from 2011 lol) and I would like to take a look at this request and maybe try implementing it.

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beheh commented Dec 18, 2024

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beheh commented Dec 18, 2024

As far as logic goes I know it's only shown in V/S and FPA and the altitude being above/below respectively. It's to protected you from climbing/descending unrestricted.

Apparently the "FCU ALT ABOVE A/C" is also only shown for 10s, whereas the other one is shown continuously.

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Pruznak commented Dec 18, 2024

Right, I might have a look at it. (This doesn't mean anyone reading this cannot start working at it - if you've implemented this - go ahead and open a PR) Thank you for the video and extra info!

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Apparently the "FCU ALT ABOVE A/C" is also only shown for 10s, whereas the other one is shown contiinuously.

The logic behind being that you can get in an underspeed condition with inadvertant +VS and with inadvertant -VS you can only CFIT? I'd consider both equally dangerous, would be interesting to know what Airbus thought if it is like this

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High AOA protection prevents underspeed being an issue.

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High AOA protection prevents underspeed being an issue.

I know the FBW protects against it in normal law, but doesn't that raise the question even more?

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