diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/common/schemas.ts b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/common/schemas.ts
index d97820f010a80..bfe450d240b08 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/common/schemas.ts
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/common/schemas.ts
@@ -444,13 +444,19 @@ export const threat_technique = t.intersection([
 ]);
 export type ThreatTechnique = t.TypeOf<typeof threat_technique>;
 export const threat_techniques = t.array(threat_technique);
-export const threat = t.exact(
-  t.type({
-    framework: threat_framework,
-    tactic: threat_tactic,
-    technique: threat_techniques,
-  })
-);
+export const threat = t.intersection([
+  t.exact(
+    t.type({
+      framework: threat_framework,
+      tactic: threat_tactic,
+    })
+  ),
+  t.exact(
+    t.partial({
+      technique: threat_techniques,
+    })
+  ),
+]);
 export type Threat = t.TypeOf<typeof threat>;
 
 export const threats = t.array(threat);
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/add_prepackged_rules_schema.test.ts b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/add_prepackged_rules_schema.test.ts
index 93094e3445488..f3bef5ad7445f 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/add_prepackged_rules_schema.test.ts
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/add_prepackged_rules_schema.test.ts
@@ -924,7 +924,7 @@ describe('add prepackaged rules schema', () => {
     expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
   });
 
-  test('You cannot send in an array of threat that are missing "technique"', () => {
+  test('You can send in an array of threat that are missing "technique"', () => {
     const payload: Omit<AddPrepackagedRulesSchema, 'threat'> & {
       threat: Array<Partial<Omit<AddPrepackagedRulesSchema['threat'], 'technique'>>>;
     } = {
@@ -944,10 +944,21 @@ describe('add prepackaged rules schema', () => {
     const decoded = addPrepackagedRulesSchema.decode(payload);
     const checked = exactCheck(payload, decoded);
     const message = pipe(checked, foldLeftRight);
-    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([
-      'Invalid value "undefined" supplied to "threat,technique"',
-    ]);
-    expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
+    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([]);
+    const expected: AddPrepackagedRulesSchemaDecoded = {
+      ...getAddPrepackagedRulesSchemaDecodedMock(),
+      threat: [
+        {
+          framework: 'fake',
+          tactic: {
+            id: 'fakeId',
+            name: 'fakeName',
+            reference: 'fakeRef',
+          },
+        },
+      ],
+    };
+    expect(message.schema).toEqual(expected);
   });
 
   test('You can optionally send in an array of false positives', () => {
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/import_rules_schema.test.ts b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/import_rules_schema.test.ts
index a59c873658411..2caedd2e01193 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/import_rules_schema.test.ts
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/import_rules_schema.test.ts
@@ -926,7 +926,7 @@ describe('import rules schema', () => {
     expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
   });
 
-  test('You cannot send in an array of threat that are missing "technique"', () => {
+  test('You can send in an array of threat that are missing "technique"', () => {
     const payload: Omit<ImportRulesSchema, 'threat'> & {
       threat: Array<Partial<Omit<ImportRulesSchema['threat'], 'technique'>>>;
     } = {
@@ -946,10 +946,21 @@ describe('import rules schema', () => {
     const decoded = importRulesSchema.decode(payload);
     const checked = exactCheck(payload, decoded);
     const message = pipe(checked, foldLeftRight);
-    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([
-      'Invalid value "undefined" supplied to "threat,technique"',
-    ]);
-    expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
+    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([]);
+    const expected: ImportRulesSchemaDecoded = {
+      ...getImportRulesSchemaDecodedMock(),
+      threat: [
+        {
+          framework: 'fake',
+          tactic: {
+            id: 'fakeId',
+            name: 'fakeName',
+            reference: 'fakeRef',
+          },
+        },
+      ],
+    };
+    expect(message.schema).toEqual(expected);
   });
 
   test('You can optionally send in an array of false positives', () => {
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/patch_rules_schema.test.ts b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/patch_rules_schema.test.ts
index 8cdb85a555451..3dfa12acc29d5 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/patch_rules_schema.test.ts
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/patch_rules_schema.test.ts
@@ -973,7 +973,7 @@ describe('patch_rules_schema', () => {
     expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
   });
 
-  test('threat is invalid when updated with missing technique', () => {
+  test('threat is valid when updated with missing technique', () => {
     const threat: Omit<PatchRulesSchema['threat'], 'technique'> = [
       {
         framework: 'fake',
@@ -993,10 +993,8 @@ describe('patch_rules_schema', () => {
     const decoded = patchRulesSchema.decode(payload);
     const checked = exactCheck(payload, decoded);
     const message = pipe(checked, foldLeftRight);
-    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([
-      'Invalid value "undefined" supplied to "threat,technique"',
-    ]);
-    expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
+    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([]);
+    expect(message.schema).toEqual(payload);
   });
 
   test('validates with timeline_id and timeline_title', () => {
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/rule_schemas.test.ts b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/rule_schemas.test.ts
index 6b8211b23088c..70ff921d3b334 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/rule_schemas.test.ts
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/common/detection_engine/schemas/request/rule_schemas.test.ts
@@ -618,7 +618,7 @@ describe('create rules schema', () => {
     expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
   });
 
-  test('You cannot send in an array of threat that are missing "technique"', () => {
+  test('You can send in an array of threat that are missing "technique"', () => {
     const payload = {
       ...getCreateRulesSchemaMock(),
       threat: [
@@ -636,10 +636,8 @@ describe('create rules schema', () => {
     const decoded = createRulesSchema.decode(payload);
     const checked = exactCheck(payload, decoded);
     const message = pipe(checked, foldLeftRight);
-    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([
-      'Invalid value "undefined" supplied to "threat,technique"',
-    ]);
-    expect(message.schema).toEqual({});
+    expect(getPaths(left(message.errors))).toEqual([]);
+    expect(message.schema).toEqual(payload);
   });
 
   test('You can optionally send in an array of false positives', () => {
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/description_step/helpers.tsx b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/description_step/helpers.tsx
index 7e2da88a58f18..af3e427056867 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/description_step/helpers.tsx
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/description_step/helpers.tsx
@@ -157,49 +157,54 @@ export const buildThreatDescription = ({ label, threat }: BuildThreatDescription
                       : `${singleThreat.tactic.name} (${singleThreat.tactic.id})`}
                   </EuiLink>
                   <EuiFlexGroup gutterSize="none" alignItems="flexStart" direction="column">
-                    {singleThreat.technique.map((technique, techniqueIndex) => {
-                      const myTechnique = techniquesOptions.find((t) => t.id === technique.id);
-                      return (
-                        <EuiFlexItem key={myTechnique?.id ?? techniqueIndex}>
-                          <TechniqueLinkItem
-                            data-test-subj="threatTechniqueLink"
-                            href={technique.reference}
-                            target="_blank"
-                            iconType={ListTreeIcon}
-                            size="xs"
-                          >
-                            {myTechnique != null
-                              ? myTechnique.label
-                              : `${technique.name} (${technique.id})`}
-                          </TechniqueLinkItem>
-                          <EuiFlexGroup gutterSize="none" alignItems="flexStart" direction="column">
-                            {technique.subtechnique != null &&
-                              technique.subtechnique.map((subtechnique, subtechniqueIndex) => {
-                                const mySubtechnique = subtechniquesOptions.find(
-                                  (t) => t.id === subtechnique.id
-                                );
-                                return (
-                                  <SubtechniqueFlexItem
-                                    key={mySubtechnique?.id ?? subtechniqueIndex}
-                                  >
-                                    <TechniqueLinkItem
-                                      data-test-subj="threatSubtechniqueLink"
-                                      href={subtechnique.reference}
-                                      target="_blank"
-                                      iconType={ListTreeIcon}
-                                      size="xs"
+                    {singleThreat.technique &&
+                      singleThreat.technique.map((technique, techniqueIndex) => {
+                        const myTechnique = techniquesOptions.find((t) => t.id === technique.id);
+                        return (
+                          <EuiFlexItem key={myTechnique?.id ?? techniqueIndex}>
+                            <TechniqueLinkItem
+                              data-test-subj="threatTechniqueLink"
+                              href={technique.reference}
+                              target="_blank"
+                              iconType={ListTreeIcon}
+                              size="xs"
+                            >
+                              {myTechnique != null
+                                ? myTechnique.label
+                                : `${technique.name} (${technique.id})`}
+                            </TechniqueLinkItem>
+                            <EuiFlexGroup
+                              gutterSize="none"
+                              alignItems="flexStart"
+                              direction="column"
+                            >
+                              {technique.subtechnique != null &&
+                                technique.subtechnique.map((subtechnique, subtechniqueIndex) => {
+                                  const mySubtechnique = subtechniquesOptions.find(
+                                    (t) => t.id === subtechnique.id
+                                  );
+                                  return (
+                                    <SubtechniqueFlexItem
+                                      key={mySubtechnique?.id ?? subtechniqueIndex}
                                     >
-                                      {mySubtechnique != null
-                                        ? mySubtechnique.label
-                                        : `${subtechnique.name} (${subtechnique.id})`}
-                                    </TechniqueLinkItem>
-                                  </SubtechniqueFlexItem>
-                                );
-                              })}
-                          </EuiFlexGroup>
-                        </EuiFlexItem>
-                      );
-                    })}
+                                      <TechniqueLinkItem
+                                        data-test-subj="threatSubtechniqueLink"
+                                        href={subtechnique.reference}
+                                        target="_blank"
+                                        iconType={ListTreeIcon}
+                                        size="xs"
+                                      >
+                                        {mySubtechnique != null
+                                          ? mySubtechnique.label
+                                          : `${subtechnique.name} (${subtechnique.id})`}
+                                      </TechniqueLinkItem>
+                                    </SubtechniqueFlexItem>
+                                  );
+                                })}
+                            </EuiFlexGroup>
+                          </EuiFlexItem>
+                        );
+                      })}
                   </EuiFlexGroup>
                 </EuiFlexItem>
               );
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/helpers.test.tsx b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/helpers.test.tsx
index da18f28257452..2a083ef89ab19 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/helpers.test.tsx
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/helpers.test.tsx
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 import { getValidThreat } from '../../../mitre/valid_threat_mock';
 import { hasSubtechniqueOptions } from './helpers';
 
-const mockTechniques = getValidThreat()[0].technique;
+const mockTechniques = getValidThreat()[0].technique ?? [];
 
 describe('helpers', () => {
   describe('hasSubtechniqueOptions', () => {
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/subtechnique_fields.tsx b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/subtechnique_fields.tsx
index e3c771534beda..d283c19bd13da 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/subtechnique_fields.tsx
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/subtechnique_fields.tsx
@@ -51,45 +51,46 @@ export const MitreAttackSubtechniqueFields: React.FC<AddSubtechniqueProps> = ({
   const values = field.value as Threats;
 
   const technique = useMemo(() => {
-    return values[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex];
-  }, [values, threatIndex, techniqueIndex]);
+    return [...(values[threatIndex].technique ?? [])];
+  }, [values, threatIndex]);
 
   const removeSubtechnique = useCallback(
     (index: number) => {
       const threats = [...(field.value as Threats)];
-      const subtechniques = threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex].subtechnique;
+      const subtechniques = technique[techniqueIndex].subtechnique ?? [];
       if (subtechniques != null) {
         subtechniques.splice(index, 1);
 
-        threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex] = {
-          ...threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex],
+        technique[techniqueIndex] = {
+          ...technique[techniqueIndex],
           subtechnique: subtechniques,
         };
+        threats[threatIndex].technique = technique;
         onFieldChange(threats);
       }
     },
-    [field, threatIndex, onFieldChange, techniqueIndex]
+    [field, onFieldChange, techniqueIndex, technique, threatIndex]
   );
 
   const addMitreAttackSubtechnique = useCallback(() => {
     const threats = [...(field.value as Threats)];
 
-    const subtechniques = threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex].subtechnique;
+    const subtechniques = technique[techniqueIndex].subtechnique;
 
     if (subtechniques != null) {
-      threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex] = {
-        ...threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex],
+      technique[techniqueIndex] = {
+        ...technique[techniqueIndex],
         subtechnique: [...subtechniques, { id: 'none', name: 'none', reference: 'none' }],
       };
     } else {
-      threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex] = {
-        ...threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex],
+      technique[techniqueIndex] = {
+        ...technique[techniqueIndex],
         subtechnique: [{ id: 'none', name: 'none', reference: 'none' }],
       };
     }
-
+    threats[threatIndex].technique = technique;
     onFieldChange(threats);
-  }, [field, threatIndex, onFieldChange, techniqueIndex]);
+  }, [field, onFieldChange, techniqueIndex, technique, threatIndex]);
 
   const updateSubtechnique = useCallback(
     (index: number, value: string) => {
@@ -99,7 +100,7 @@ export const MitreAttackSubtechniqueFields: React.FC<AddSubtechniqueProps> = ({
         name: '',
         reference: '',
       };
-      const subtechniques = threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex].subtechnique;
+      const subtechniques = technique[techniqueIndex].subtechnique;
 
       if (subtechniques != null) {
         onFieldChange([
@@ -107,9 +108,9 @@ export const MitreAttackSubtechniqueFields: React.FC<AddSubtechniqueProps> = ({
           {
             ...threats[threatIndex],
             technique: [
-              ...threats[threatIndex].technique.slice(0, techniqueIndex),
+              ...technique.slice(0, techniqueIndex),
               {
-                ...threats[threatIndex].technique[techniqueIndex],
+                ...technique[techniqueIndex],
                 subtechnique: [
                   ...subtechniques.slice(0, index),
                   {
@@ -120,19 +121,21 @@ export const MitreAttackSubtechniqueFields: React.FC<AddSubtechniqueProps> = ({
                   ...subtechniques.slice(index + 1),
                 ],
               },
-              ...threats[threatIndex].technique.slice(techniqueIndex + 1),
+              ...technique.slice(techniqueIndex + 1),
             ],
           },
           ...threats.slice(threatIndex + 1),
         ]);
       }
     },
-    [threatIndex, techniqueIndex, onFieldChange, field]
+    [threatIndex, techniqueIndex, onFieldChange, field, technique]
   );
 
   const getSelectSubtechnique = useCallback(
     (index: number, disabled: boolean, subtechnique: ThreatSubtechnique) => {
-      const options = subtechniquesOptions.filter((t) => t.techniqueId === technique.id);
+      const options = subtechniquesOptions.filter(
+        (t) => t.techniqueId === technique[techniqueIndex].id
+      );
 
       return (
         <>
@@ -166,13 +169,17 @@ export const MitreAttackSubtechniqueFields: React.FC<AddSubtechniqueProps> = ({
         </>
       );
     },
-    [field, updateSubtechnique, technique]
+    [field, updateSubtechnique, technique, techniqueIndex]
   );
 
+  const subtechniques = useMemo(() => {
+    return technique[techniqueIndex].subtechnique;
+  }, [technique, techniqueIndex]);
+
   return (
     <SubtechniqueContainer>
-      {technique.subtechnique != null &&
-        technique.subtechnique.map((subtechnique, index) => (
+      {subtechniques != null &&
+        subtechniques.map((subtechnique, index) => (
           <div key={index}>
             <EuiSpacer size="s" />
             <EuiFormRow
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/technique_fields.tsx b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/technique_fields.tsx
index bf224d85076f9..7f698740f5d3b 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/technique_fields.tsx
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/components/rules/mitre/technique_fields.tsx
@@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ export const MitreAttackTechniqueFields: React.FC<AddTechniqueProps> = ({
   const removeTechnique = useCallback(
     (index: number) => {
       const threats = [...(field.value as Threats)];
-      const techniques = threats[threatIndex].technique;
+      const techniques = threats[threatIndex].technique ?? [];
       techniques.splice(index, 1);
       threats[threatIndex] = {
         ...threats[threatIndex],
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ export const MitreAttackTechniqueFields: React.FC<AddTechniqueProps> = ({
     threats[threatIndex] = {
       ...threats[threatIndex],
       technique: [
-        ...threats[threatIndex].technique,
+        ...(threats[threatIndex].technique ?? []),
         { id: 'none', name: 'none', reference: 'none', subtechnique: [] },
       ],
     };
@@ -88,19 +88,20 @@ export const MitreAttackTechniqueFields: React.FC<AddTechniqueProps> = ({
         name: '',
         reference: '',
       };
+      const technique = threats[threatIndex].technique ?? [];
       onFieldChange([
         ...threats.slice(0, threatIndex),
         {
           ...threats[threatIndex],
           technique: [
-            ...threats[threatIndex].technique.slice(0, index),
+            ...technique.slice(0, index),
             {
               id,
               reference,
               name,
               subtechnique: [],
             },
-            ...threats[threatIndex].technique.slice(index + 1),
+            ...technique.slice(index + 1),
           ],
         },
         ...threats.slice(threatIndex + 1),
@@ -147,9 +148,11 @@ export const MitreAttackTechniqueFields: React.FC<AddTechniqueProps> = ({
     [field, updateTechnique]
   );
 
+  const techniques = values[threatIndex].technique ?? [];
+
   return (
     <TechniqueContainer>
-      {values[threatIndex].technique.map((technique, index) => (
+      {techniques.map((technique, index) => (
         <div key={index}>
           <EuiSpacer size="s" />
           <EuiFormRow
diff --git a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/pages/detection_engine/rules/create/helpers.ts b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/pages/detection_engine/rules/create/helpers.ts
index 12e6d276c18d8..b8824d2b8798e 100644
--- a/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/pages/detection_engine/rules/create/helpers.ts
+++ b/x-pack/plugins/security_solution/public/detections/pages/detection_engine/rules/create/helpers.ts
@@ -182,7 +182,7 @@ export const filterEmptyThreats = (threats: Threats): Threats => {
     .map((threat) => {
       return {
         ...threat,
-        technique: trimThreatsWithNoName(threat.technique).map((technique) => {
+        technique: trimThreatsWithNoName(threat.technique ?? []).map((technique) => {
           return {
             ...technique,
             subtechnique: