Apple Box

[nelsonic]

While watching Indy Mogul's "10 Essential Film Tools" video I learned about Apple Boxes:

https://youtu.be/a1y7smPtpyc

https://www.adorama.com/mt259535.html

https://www.filmtools.com/grip-and-electrical/grip-essentials/appleboxes/filmtools-apple-box-full.html

$36.35 for a wooden box ...

Todo

• Get Exact Dimensions in mm > 20" x 12" x 8" > 50.8 x 30.48 x 20.32
  https://www.google.com/search?q=20+inches+in+cm
• Clone it in Fusion 360
• Send design to Samir 3D Workshop

[nelsonic]

Obviously searching ebay for "apple box" gives a lot of results (noise!):

So narrowing the search by adding the keyword "film" (i.e. "apple box film") is more relevant:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=apple+box+film

Sorting by price unfortunately gives us this noise:

But scrolling down the first relevant result is:

The full ("Mini") set is £84.22 + 12.00 shipping
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Udengo-Mini-Apple-Box-Nested-Set-All-In-One-Film-Studio-Grip-Prop-made-in-EU/254249278663

I'm really not a fan of the screws ...

The full-size set is £116.72 + £17.00 postage

https://udengo.com/news/news/new-nesting-mini-apple-box

https://udengo.com/apple-box-sets/apple-box-nested-set.html

We can do much better!!

This set from China does not have screws:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-Box-Nested-Set-Film-Studio-Stand-Prop-Photography-Sturdy-Wooden-12x8x20/273760353891

I like the fact that they are nested:

Are you thinking what I'm thinking pinky...? 💭
https://www.ebay.com/help/global-shipping-program/default/global-shipping-program?id=4646

[nelsonic]

Side-by-side comparison: Nested vs. Standard (not nested)

The nested set is cheaper than the non-nested version! 🤔
(on the udengo the nested version is more expensive!)

Nested

• Pancake:1" x 20" x 12" (2.4cm x 50cm x 30cm)
  4.4 lbs (2 kg)
• Quarter: 2" x 20" x 12" (5cm x 50cm x 30cm)
  6.4 lbs (3 kg)
• Half:4" x 20" x 12" (10cm x 50cm x 30cm)
  7.9 lbs (3.6 kg)
• Open Full: 8" x 21.25" x 13" (20cm x 54cm x 33cm)
  12.1 lbs (5.5 kg)
• NESTED SET (All): 8" x 21.25" x 13" (20cm x 54cm x 33cm)
  31 lbs (14kg)

Standard

• Pancake:1" x 20" x 12" (2.4cm x 50cm x 30cm)
  4.4 lbs (2 kg)
• Quarter: 2" x 20" x 12" (5cm x 50cm x 30cm)
  6.4 lbs (3 kg)
• Half:4" x 20" x 12" (10cm x 50cm x 30cm)
  7.9 lbs (3.6 kg)
• Full:8" x 20" x 12" (20cm x 50cm x 30cm)
  11.2 lbs (5.1 kg)
• SET (All): 14,6" x 20" x 12" (37,8cm x 50 cm x 30cm)
  30 lbs (13.7kg)

So the key difference is that the "Full" size box is 3cm taller and 4cm longer in the Nested set.

[nelsonic]

£116.72 + 17 = £133.72

Feels like there's a healthy margin in this product ... 🤔

a 2500 mm x 1250 mm sheet of 15 mm birch plywood is €43.75
See: #71 for receipt.

We would use 12mm ply for the Pancake, and for the sides of all the other boxes.
Then use 15mm for the top and bottom of the Quarter, Half and Full box.

We could call it Marx Apple Box (after the Marx Brothers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_Brothers )

"If you're not having fun, you're doing something wrong."
~ Groucho Marx

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/43244.Groucho_Marx

A play on Matthews ...
https://products.msegrip.com/products/apple-box?variant=7894928003

https://cvp.com/product/matthews_259535