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https://endoflife.date/ansible #87

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gundalow opened this issue Apr 13, 2022 · 11 comments
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https://endoflife.date/ansible #87

gundalow opened this issue Apr 13, 2022 · 11 comments

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@gundalow
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Summary

I've seen https://endoflife.date/ansible mentioned again in Chat, so makes me think folks are using it

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  1. Does this need to be split into two, ansible and ansible-core
  • If two pages, we should link to each other
  • If split, consider timelineImage: true
  1. Docs links should go to /devel/
  2. version command is for ansible-core, not ansible
  3. Update our release procedures to update these files
  4. General review of wording, link to Matrix
@mariolenz
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Thanks for bringing this up @gundalow!

I've seen https://endoflife.date/ansible mentioned again in Chat, so makes me think folks are using it

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  1. Does this need to be split into two, ansible and ansible-core

I'd say: Yes, of course. ansible is different from ansible-core.

  • If two pages, we should link to each other

Why? People using ansible X.Y.Z shouldn't care about the EOL of the underlying ansible version. And people using ansible-core and install the collections they need via galaxy shouldn't care about ansible. It wouldn't hurt, though, but I don't think this would be necessary.

  1. Docs links should go to /devel/

Yes.

  1. version command is for ansible-core, not ansible

Is there a way to get the ansible version? Well, you could use pip (I think it also shows Python packages not installed via pip but with yum or apt or whatever) but there's no other way, is there?

  1. Update our release procedures to update these files

Good idea!

  1. General review of wording

Might be a good idea to make this part of the release procedures, too.

@gundalow
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WIP PR endoflife-date/endoflife.date#1047

@felixfontein
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+1 on splitting it up, and +1 for linking from ansible to ansilbe-core (the other direction isn't really necessary as @mariolenz pointed out, but that one might be of interest)

Is there a way to get the ansible version? Well, you could use pip (I think it also shows Python packages not installed via pip but with yum or apt or whatever) but there's no other way, is there?

There isn't, and that's really not good. Right now you have to use package manager you used to install it to figure out the version, or run a bit of Python code:

python3 -c 'from ansible_collections.ansible_release import ansible_version; print(ansible_version)'

I think it would be worth integrating a small CLI program which prints this version, but the hard part is figuring out how to name it... Everything with prefix ansible is kind of reserved for the core team, and if we want to use something like ansible-version we should better ask for permission / coordinate that.

@mariolenz
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I think it would be worth integrating a small CLI program which prints this version, but the hard part is figuring out how to name it... Everything with prefix ansible is kind of reserved for the core team, and if we want to use something like ansible-version we should better ask for permission / coordinate that.

I've opened #89 to discuss this since it's a bit off-topic here.

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@mariolenz
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@gundalow Do you think we can close this? It looks like endoflife has been updated:

@felixfontein
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We should make sure that it is kept updated; for Ansible we have ansible-community/ansible-build-data#167, no idea who will do the update for ansible-core.

@mariolenz
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no idea who will do the update for ansible-core.

FYI, I've just I've opened ansible/ansible#79190 to make the core team aware of this.

@mariolenz
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@gundalow @felixfontein FYI ansible-core will not update endoflife.date.

@mariolenz
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Both https://endoflife.date/ansible-core and https://endoflife.date/ansible look OK to me ATM.

If there's more to discuss, I suggest open a topic in the forum.

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