CLI: Add the command verdi presto

[sphuber]

This command aims making setting up a new profile as easy as possible. It intentionally provides a limited amount of options to customize the profile and by default does not require any options to be specified at all. For full control, the command verdi profile setup should be used instead.

The main goal for this command is to setup a profile with minimal requirements to make it easy to install AiiDA and get started as quickly as possible. Therefore, by default, the created profile uses the core.sqlite_dos storage plugin which does not require any services, such as PostgreSQL and RabbitMQ are not required. This does mean, however, that not all functionality of AiiDA is available, most notably running the daemon and submitting processes to said daemon.

The command performs the following actions:

• Create a new profile that is set as the new default
• Create a default user for the profile (can be configured through options)
• Set up the localhost as a Computer and configure it
• Set a number of configuration options with sensible defaults

In the future, it may be possible to incorporate the functionality of the verdi quicksetup command that automatically creates the role and database in PostgreSQL necessary for a profile with the core.psql_dos storage plugin. This would allow verdi quicksetup to be retired leaving just verdi presto and verdi profile setup to provide all the profile setup needs.

[sphuber]

I have added a commit on top that now automatically tries to detect a RabbitMQ server on localhost. If it finds it, the profile is configured with that as broker, otherwise the profile will have no broker.

The second thing I could still add is to automatically detect a Postgres server, and if it exists automatically try to create a role and a database and use core.psql_dos instead of core.sqlite_dos.

[mbercx]

I have added a commit on top that now automatically tries to detect a RabbitMQ server on localhost. If it finds it, the profile is configured with that as broker, otherwise the profile will have no broker.

This is great, and I think very reasonable. I think a user will quite quickly want to submit calculations after starting to use AiiDA.

One comment might be that at some point we'll probably have multiple brokers. But I think in the foreseeable future the RabbitMQ broker will be the preferred option if it is available.

The second thing I could still add is to automatically detect a Postgres server, and if it exists automatically try to create a role and a database and use core.psql_dos instead of core.sqlite_dos.

I would like this, but I'd say it's less necessary than the RabbitMQ broker. I'll give it some more thought while I'm dogfooding! 🐶

[sphuber]

One comment might be that at some point we'll probably have multiple brokers. But I think in the foreseeable future the RabbitMQ broker will be the preferred option if it is available.

Honestly, I don't think this will be very likely. I think it will be a lot more complicated than having different storage plugins and I see little benefit. Up until now, I think pretty much all users only ever used the default configuration as well as technically there wasn't really an API to customize it (although they could have manually updated the config json). So I think this will go a long way and time for over 99% of the use cases.

I would like this, but I'd say it's less necessary than the RabbitMQ broker. I'll give it some more thought while I'm dogfooding!

I gathered as much from the meeting that people are still relying on this verdi quicksetup functionality quite a bit. Unfortunately it is not as straightforward as the case for RabbitMQ, because the latter comes with default credentials and the connection parameters are essentially identical on all OS'es and platforms. For PostgreSQL there is a whole host of different setups that change if and how new roles and database can be created. For example on Ubuntu, it is possible, but typically asks for a password. Given that verdi presto should require no options and should be promptless, I think it would be unacceptable if it would prompt for a password and potentially fail. So I guess in this case, at the very least, we should have a flag that enables the code to try and connect to postgresql, signalling that potentially prompting for a sudo password would be acceptable.

[mbercx]

Honestly, I don't think this will be very likely. I think it will be a lot more complicated than having different storage plugins and I see little benefit.

I would be inclined to agree, if not for the well-known issue we have with RabbitMQ, where after setting up the profile using verdi presto they still have to deal with this:

verdi status                                                                                                                                                                           1113ms  Wed Apr 17 21:29:43 2024
 ✔ version:     AiiDA v2.5.1.post0
 ✔ config:      /Users/mbercx/project/adis/.aiida
 ✔ profile:     presto
 ✔ storage:     SqliteDosStorage[/Users/mbercx/project/adis/.aiida/repository/sqlite_dos_1f5ae658a6324ad1ba511c1e212e9508]: open,
Warning: RabbitMQ v3.12.12 is not supported and will cause unexpected problems!
Warning: It can cause long-running workflows to crash and jobs to be submitted multiple times.
Warning: See https://github.com/aiidateam/aiida-core/wiki/RabbitMQ-version-to-use for details.
 ✔ broker:      RabbitMQ v3.12.12 @ amqp://guest:[email protected]:5672?heartbeat=600
 ⏺ daemon:      The daemon is not running.

But that's a fight for another day. ^^

Given that verdi presto should require no options and should be promptless, I think it would be unacceptable if it would prompt for a password and potentially fail. So I guess in this case, at the very least, we should have a flag that enables the code to try and connect to postgresql, signalling that potentially prompting for a sudo password would be acceptable.

I agree with this approach. verdi presto should be seamless, and not potentially face the same issues of verdi quicksetup. Extending the command to PostgreSQL with a flag seems like a perfectly fine solution.

Regarding the issue of adding database-specific options: I think we should avoid them. The command should try to figure out sensible defaults as much as possible, and only prompt the user in case it needs to, even with flags.

[sphuber]

I would be inclined to agree, if not for the well-known issue we have with RabbitMQ, where after setting up the profile using verdi presto they still have to deal with this:

Fair, but this is for users who are already going through the trouble of installing RabbitMQ, so then I think it is fine to have this warning and point them to instructions to get rid of it. This won't affect the user that is just going to do pip install aiida-core && verdi presto to give things a quick spin.

[mbercx]

Some initial dogfooding comments:

verdi status profile setup recommendations

As @khsrali mentioned, we should probably think of adapting the report here:

$ verdi status
 ✔ version:     AiiDA v2.5.1.post0
 ✔ config:      /Users/mbercx/project/adis/.aiida
 ⏺ profile:     no profile configured yet
Report: Configure a profile by running `verdi quicksetup` or `verdi setup`.

I suppose we should point to both verdi presto and verdi profile setup, with a note that beginners should use verdi presto. Secondly, I would like to use setup here instead of configure. Though this is not fully fixed, I like to make the following distinction between setup and configure:

• setup: Something you only do once, and may contain settings that cannot be changed afterwards.
• configure: Setting you can always adapt afterwards. It's possible during setup you also configure some settings, but you can always reconfigure them later.

Remove user options

I'd be in favor of removing the user options here:

Options:
  --profile-name TEXT             The name of the profile. By default
                                  generates a name that does not already exist
                                  and starts with `presto`.  [default:
                                  (dynamic)]
  --email TEXT                    The email of the default user.  [default:
                                  aiida@localhost]
  --first-name TEXT               The first name of the default user.
                                  [default: John]
  --last-name TEXT                The last name of the default user.
                                  [default: Doe]
  --institution TEXT              The institution of the default user.
                                  [default: Unknown]

If a user actually wants to have their name etc attached to their nodes at some point, they can do so very easily with verdi user configure.

One note: do we have commands to migrate nodes to other users? That might be useful once the user decides they want to attach their details e.g. for an export.

[sphuber]

setup: Something you only do once, and may contain settings that cannot be changed afterwards.
configure: Setting you can always adapt afterwards. It's possible during setup you also configure some settings, but you can always reconfigure them later.

Makes sense to me, happy to adopt this terminology.

I'd be in favor of removing the user options here:

Fine as well. Do we keep the email though? We had a long discussion some time ago and since the email is not mutable, maybe we should keep that option for people making a production profile with verdi presto?

[mbercx]

Fine as well. Do we keep the email though? We had a long discussion some time ago and since the email is not mutable, maybe we should keep that option for people making a production profile with verdi presto?

Hmm, right. Maybe it's easier to reconfigure your existing user than creating a new one and then updating the nodes somehow.

That said, some dogfooding of the verdi user commands has left me confused:

$ verdi user list                                                                                                                                                                     207ms  Wed Apr 17 22:19:29 2024
    Email             First name    Last name    Institution
--  ----------------  ------------  -----------  -------------
    aiida@localhost   John          Doe          Unknown
*   [email protected]  Marnik        Bercx        EPFL

Report: The user highlighted and marked with a * is the default user.

$ verdi user configure [email protected]                                                                                                                                                   818ms  Wed Apr 17 22:19:33 2024
Report: enter ? for help.
Report: enter ! to ignore the default and set no value.
User email: test@new
First name []: Billy
Last name []: The Kid
Institution []: Wild West
Set as default? [y/N]: y
Usage: verdi user configure [OPTIONS]
Try 'verdi user configure --help' for help.

Error: Got unexpected extra argument ([email protected])

Note how it only complains about the extra argument at the end. I now understand that I have to do

$ verdi user configure --email [email protected] 

But that doesn't seem that intuitive, especially since other CLI commands we have typically don't need to specify the identifier of the object you are operating on as an option. Beyond the scope of this PR though, but happy to write this down in an issue if you agree this should be changed¹.

In the end, I'm not sure if we should add the --email. It's the one piece of information users would be least willing to share (More potential for SPAM? No thank you). One argument in favor of not adding the option now is that "we can always do so later", whereas this is not possible for removing it.

Footnotes

1. In general, it would be good to rethink the concept of a user, and why a profile can have multiple users etc. Looking at this comment from a collaborator of @GeigerJ2, it does seem to cause some confusion as well. I've considered moving to a git-like model here, where the user can simply be fully configured at any time, and then attach their user when exporting. However, I realise that doesn't allow to keep track of nodes that were imported from somewhere else and then used by the exporting user. ↩

[sphuber]

But that doesn't seem that intuitive, especially since other CLI commands we have typically don't need to specify the identifier of the object you are operating on as an option. Beyond the scope of this PR though, but happy to write this down in an issue if you agree this should be changed

First of all, this is terribly off-topic. You put that thing back where it came from or I will be forced to whip out my Mr. ScopeCreep image again.

That being said, the confusion comes from the fact that the same command is being used to create new users and update existing ones. On top of that, I agree that one might expect the email as a positional argument. Finally, the error of the superfluous additional positional argument only being thrown at the end of all the prompts is a side effect of clicks parsing order. This is not unique to this command but will happen for all interactive commands. I even remember an ancient issue about this.

Edit: found it #1938

[mbercx]

First of all, this is terribly off-topic. You put that thing back where it came from or I will be forced to whip out my Mr. ScopeCreep image again.

[mbercx]

In the end, I'm not sure if we should add the --email. It's the one piece of information users would be least willing to share (More potential for SPAM? No thank you). One argument in favor of not adding the option now is that "we can always do so later", whereas this is not possible for removing it.

Back on topic, I would add no options for now, until we figure out the user issue some more. But I'm not so against it I would put my foot down. Happy either way.

[sphuber]

In general, it would be good to rethink the concept of a user, and why a profile can have multiple users etc.

Just to provide some context as to why the concept of users exist. From the very beginning when the database schema was created, it was decided that each node (and other entities) should have an "owner". So the DbNode table had a foreign key of the DbUser table. This is why a profile should also always have a default user, because as soon as you instantiate and/or store a Node, it should automatically have its User populated. The idea of having a user associated with nodes was that when you shared/exported the data, it would be clear who the original creator of that data was. Clearly this is very valuable when sharing data. This now also explains why it is possible for a profile to have multiple users because as you import data from another user, that user has to be created in the database.

[mbercx]

Thanks @sphuber, I remember a similar explanation when I was complaining about the User concept in the past. ^^

One thing that I was wondering about re-reading this: what happens if a user tries to import nodes from another User with the same email? I suppose the email serves like a sort of UUID? So this won't create a new user but simple associate the nodes to the already existing one?

I'm pretty sure I've run into this already, but with the new verdi presto command this will happen very often. So wanted to double-check the behavior.

[sphuber]

I suppose the email serves like a sort of UUID? So this won't create a new user but simple associate the nodes to the already existing one?

Correct. The user table doesn't have a UUID but the email has to be unique. The assumption was made that since emails are typically unique identifiers for people in the real world, it would work for AiiDA as well.

[mbercx]

More dogfooding! 🐶

Default profile names after the first

This one is a bit minor, but just a thought.

After making a first profile, I wondered what the name of a second profile generated with verdi presto would be:

$ verdi presto                                                                                               207ms  Thu Apr 18 07:14:34 2024
Report: RabbitMQ server detected: configuring the profile with a broker.
Report: Initialising the storage backend.
Report: Storage initialisation completed.
Success: Created new profile `presto-b351d3`.
Success: Configured the localhost as a computer.

I like that the hash is shorter (compared to the massive database names verdi quicksetup gives), but I'm just wondering if we can't just iterate number here. I.e. presto, presto-2, presto-3, ... I think this is easier to use and remember (even with that sexy tab-completion).

Default localhost workdir

Having verdi presto automatically set up a localhost computer solves that old issue #749, which is great.

However, as I also commented there, I was wondering what the default workdir should be. Looking at the computer now:

verdi computer show localhost                                                                              819ms  Thu Apr 18 07:15:33 2024
---------------------------  --------------------------------------------------------------
Label                        localhost
PK                           1
UUID                         db0233db-fd97-4a62-9ce0-ac792a2390c7
Description                  Localhost automatically created by `verdi presto`
Hostname                     localhost
Transport type               core.local
Scheduler type               core.direct
Work directory               /var/folders/34/d38ymzfd6t5dsrv7d4wcww200000gn/T/aiida_scratch
Shebang                      #!/bin/bash
Mpirun command               mpirun -np {tot_num_mpiprocs}
Default #procs/machine       1
Default memory (kB)/machine
Prepend text
Append text
---------------------------  --------------------------------------------------------------

The default workdir is /var/folders/34/d38ymzfd6t5dsrv7d4wcww200000gn/T/aiida_scratch. What was the motivation for this choice? Are there alternatives? E.g. why not in the .aiida folder?

At the risk of turning into Mr. Scope Creep again, but this would be less of an issue if aiidateam/team-compass#12 could be solved. In line with the definitions above, the workdir should be part of the configuration.

[sphuber]

but I'm just wondering if we can't just iterate number here. I.e. presto, presto-2, presto-3

That would work for me as well.

What was the motivation for this choice?

Since this is the scratch directory essentially, I thought it made sense to have it in a temporary directory that makes it clear that it is scratch. The directory is determined by import tempfile; tempfile.gettempdir() which returns the tmp file system on the OS. On Linux this is typically /tmp.

In line with the definitions above, the workdir should be part of the configuration.

I think this makes more sense indeed. But, besides breaking backwards-compatibility, we would have to check carefully whether changing the working directory on a computer that is actively being used could have unexpected effects. Some code may silently assume that this is immutable.

[sphuber]

To give a summary of points made by @mbercx that are directly pertinent to this PR and not wildly scope-creepey:

• Change output of verdi status to refer to verdi presto and verdi profile setup
• Change default profile naming scheme to use incrementing integer suffix instead of random hash
• Remove all user configuration options

I am onboard with all suggestions, except I would keep the --email option since that cannot be changed in the current API and would have consequences. (Still that would force a user to be aware of this when calling verdi presto but I am thinking mostly of users that are not first time users and simply use it to easily setup a core.psql_dos profile for production, so it is fine to ask them to specify an --email option)

[mbercx]

Since this is the scratch directory essentially, I thought it made sense to have it in a temporary directory that makes it clear that it is scratch.

How temporary is a temporary directory? I'm worried that users might expect to be able to use e.g. verdi calcjob gotocomputer for some time after running their calculation.

[danielhollas]

@sphuber @mbercx feel free to tag me for review once you converge, happy to take a look and do a bit of dogfooding.

am onboard with all suggestions, except I would keep the --email option since that cannot be changed in the current API and would have consequences. (Still that would force a user to be aware of this when calling verdi presto but I am thinking mostly of users that are not first time users and simply use it to easily setup a core.psql_dos profile for production, so it is fine to ask them to specify an --email option)

Yes please!

[sphuber]

I have addressed the final action points of this comment #6351 (comment)

This is now ready for final review. Pinging @danielhollas

[danielhollas]

Smattering of minor nits and suggestions. My main concerns:

1. Should this be better documented throughout the documentation (tutorials and such). Okay to be done in separate PR so we don't block it here and can start using it.
2. Would like to see more end-to-end test.

I'll be testing this hopefully early next week. Exciting! 🎉

[danielhollas]

This sentence sounds strange to me. Maybe...

Suggested change

	Set up a new profile as automatically as possible.
	Set up a new profile without a fuss.

Or

Suggested change

	Set up a new profile as automatically as possible.
	Set up a new, pre-configured profile.

Suggested change

	Set up a new profile as automatically as possible.
	Quickly set up a new profile.

Not quite happy with any of these, perhaps @mbercx will have the right idea.

[sphuber]

Also found it difficult to find a good phrasing for this. Agree that what I have currently is unsatisfactory

[danielhollas]

Given the name of the command, perhaps something a bit light-hearted might actually work. :-)

[sphuber]

Given the name of the command, perhaps something a bit light-hearted might actually work. :-)

Yeah fair enough, how about

Set up a new profile in a jiffy.

Not sure how well known that expression is to non-Brits though

[danielhollas]

I love in a jiffy! But as you mention, it probably might confuse some people. And given presto itself might not be known to everybody (sorry italians 🇮🇹 ) we better be clear in the first sentence of the docstring.

I asked a hippo for help, how about

Set up a profile in no time.
Set up a profile without hassle.
Set up a profile rapidly/swiftly and without hassle.

The last one tries to convey that it should be both quick and easy (without a fuss). But fuss or hassle might have the same problem as jiffy? Okay I'll stop painting the bikeshed now. 🚲

[sphuber]

Hey, that's why we are here, to bikeshed until we collapse. I will keep jiffy for now and let's see what the others think

[mbercx]

It's an excellent question which clearly requires extensive debate. ^^

I think one issue in properly describing the command is that it doesn't set up a barebones profile because it does check for a RabbitMQ broker, but it doesn't check for all services since for PostgreSQL that is more complicated.

However, the most important aspect of the verdi presto command is that it's fast. So I'm in favor of something like:

Set up a new profile in seconds.

The second aspect is that it doesn't require user input (for now). So we could add "automatically":

Automatically set up a new profile in seconds.

I'm also fine with "in no time", "without hassle", "in a jiffy". But I think "in seconds" is the easiest to understand for non-natives?

[mbercx]

We could also use "in a matter of seconds" or "in a few seconds". But maybe we should block a 3 hour Zoom call to discuss this at length... 😁

[danielhollas]

@sphuber thanks for indulging me, and improving the tests! I left a couple of follow up comments.

I have also tested this locally and it works great! 🎉

[sphuber]

thanks for indulging me, and improving the tests!

My pleasure, intensive reviews always improve the end result. Your time is much appreciated!

[danielhollas]

Suggested change

	* Create a default user for the profile (email can be configured through option the `--email` option)
	* Create a default user for the profile (email can be configured through the `--email` option)

[danielhollas]

Suggested change

	the profile if found. Otherwise, the profile is created without a broker configured. This _does_ mean, however, that
	not all functionality of AiiDA is available most notably running the daemon and submitting processes to said daemon.
	the profile if found. Otherwise, the profile is created without a broker, in which case some of the AiiDA functionality will be unavailable,
	most notably running the daemon and submitting processes to said daemon.

[GeigerJ2]

Hey guys, sry, a bit late to the party here. Just went through the discussion and the code changes, and don't really have anything to add after the excellent comments by @mbercx and @danielhollas. Seems in very good shape to me!
Though, related to the most important open question: in a jiffy actually made me giggle when I was dogfooding now :D so I like it, but would ofc also be fine with the other suggestions.

[danielhollas]

Though, related to the most important open question: in a jiffy actually made me giggle when I was dogfooding now :D so I like it, but would ofc also be fine with the other suggestions.

Ironically, this bike shed is taking ages to paint. 🤣

[sphuber]

Ok, I think we have bikeshedded enough for now. I am merging this. If there are still important changes, they can be made before the release.