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Selection of Representative Compounds for Gametocyte Assay #5

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mattodd opened this issue Aug 30, 2017 · 7 comments
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Selection of Representative Compounds for Gametocyte Assay #5

mattodd opened this issue Aug 30, 2017 · 7 comments

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@mattodd
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mattodd commented Aug 30, 2017

With the Series 4 paper in progress, we need to tie up a loose end related to whether Series 4 has gametocyte stage activity. (Wiki section). The possibility of gametocyte activity in this series has been discussed and seems reasonable to check for. Not a priority for the series, but something important to check.

Which compounds to send? I'd suggest two potent actives and one inactive control from the frontrunners?

@david1597 @edwintse we have stocks available, right? I will check on which lab might be willing to run these.

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I suggest just make that two inactives, for symmetry... n.b. if the two pairs are at least slightly divergent in chemical properties (even if they are all same series) but similar as pairs (i.e. the inactive as structurally close to the potent as possible). Note also the lab should also run a standard parasite assay in // with the gametocyte (i.e. same lab same week) and do enough replicates for a convincing +/- SD

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mattodd commented Sep 11, 2017

OK, Paul Willis says "A PfATP4 inhibitor will inhibit male gametocyte exflagellation so I would recommend sending the compounds to Imperial for the DGFA, within the MMV network" - that'll be the target of the shipment. Two actives, two inactives. I'm not sure about the absolute requirement for concurrent standard blood stage assay @cdsouthan - I can ask, but we're pretty happy with the potencies of the oft-tested compounds and there would be, I assume, an internal assay control. I'll see what they say.

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Two actives and two inactives, with some structural similarity between the pairs:

We have sufficient stocks, so are these the four to send?

sep17 compounds to send for gametocyte assay

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mattodd commented Sep 18, 2017

Yes, these look good to me @david1597 . Great. This is the kind of thing you had in mind @cdsouthan ? Will clear this with MMV and Imperial if so and we can ship. Will ask about concurrent blood stage potency assay.

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Yes, but as ever, the more controls you include the better e.g. another pair from someone else's directly verified PfATP4 inhibitor series?

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We don't have sufficient quantities of MMV693155 to send (see #6), and so we propose to send MMV68896 instead. Not as potent, but a better structural match to it's partner so perhaps a better choice anyway.

updated sep17 compounds to send for gametocyte assay

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The following four compounds were shipped 25/9/17:

sep17 icl

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