List of Coded PHY Supported/Tested Phones #166
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There's number of phones that support Coded phy, but a device needs to advertise on LE 1M as Primary phy to be found, which completely brakes the purpose of long range. Pixel is this group. Actually, we only know only One Plus 6 that can scan packets with Primary phy Coded. Good to know S10+ is also capable to do so. |
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Dang, that sucks because the Pixel itself can advertise with LE Coded in both the primary and secondary channels. Why would it only support scanning on LE 1M?!? So to re-iterate the first question...is there a list somewhere? If we don't have it, can we start compiling it? |
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So far I know only One Plus 6 and Samsung S10(+) that can scan using primary PHY Coded. |
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Ok, thank you! I'll keep my eye out for it. |
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I can now confirm that the One Plus 7 series can also scan using primary PHY Coded. And can also confirm that Google Pixel 4 won't support Primary PHY LE Coded in the future: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/148487283 |
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Here are some devices I have tested and confirmed to have BT5 Code PHY Long range. Galaxy Tab A7 Somebody above said Oneplus 6 works, but if I remember correctly, I think it didn't work for us when a colleague tested it. It might depend on which version of Oneplus 6 it is because there are sometimes differences between versions sold in different countries. Some devices possibly have it according to the Bluetooth ICS page, but they usually come with this comment: C.2: Excluded IF SUM ICS 21/14 “Core v4.2” is supported, otherwise Optional. Some devices I tested that potentially had it according the ICS page, actually didn't have it or it didn't work for scanning. In the menu of the nRF connect app, you can tap "Device information" and it will have YES or NO for "Long range (PHY Coded) supported". For the devices I tested that potentially had it but didn't work, they failed at different points. Some showed NO in nRF connect for "Long range (PHY Coded) supported", others like LG K31 said YES, but when I tried to scan, it couldn't see a Code PHY advertisement. These devices potentially have it according to the Bluetooth ICS page, but I haven't tested any of them. LG Velvet Xiaomi Redmi 9 and 9C Motorola Edge + A commenter above mentioned that some phones can communicate with Code PHY, but can only scan in 1M. I didn't even test that out because for my purposes, those phones would be useless. I need them to be able to scan in Long Range because we are actually working with Long Range requirements. |
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Samsung Galaxy S21 works absolutely fine. |
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This is a great thread! I appreciate the efforts of coming up with a list of phones that support Coded PHY. I have a related question (and I apologize if this is not a bit tangential to the topic), but didn't know where else to ask the question. I am currently using a OnePlus Nord N10 5G and I can confirm it works well for scanning, advertising (primary & secondary), and connecting all using Coded PHY. The issue I am running into is I'm not able to scan only Coded PHY advertisements. According to the Android API documentation, you can set the PHY used for scanning to be either 1M + Coded PHY, 1M only, or Coded only. However, I am still receiving non-Coded PHY advertisements even when I set the Phy to Coded PHY using the .setPhy(BluetoothDevice.PHY_LE_CODED) while setting the Scan Settings. The codebase I am using is the Android-nRF-Blinky GitHub repo. Please let me know if I should be posting this somewhere else. I'll delete and post where appropriate! |
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We have tested the Samsung M51 to work Not Working are the Samsung A32 5G |
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I can confirm the Samsung A32 5G does not pick up primary LE_Coded only advertising payloads. The issue mentioned on the OnePlus 6T happens with a few other phones. It gets worse if you increase the advertising interval. @mafaneh That's a different issue, open a new ticket for that if you need help please. Short answer: Android doesn't let you scan using LE Coded only. It's only 1M+LE_CODED or 1M-only. |
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My Samsung S20 was able to scan LE_CODED advertisements perfectly until the last 2022-August security update, in some pages it talks about this update adding improvements to the security of Wifi and Bluetooth. That's sad I may try to revert this update but seems not trivial, I used nRF Connect for Android to scan for some devices I was working on that only advertise on LE_CODED. |
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Samsung Galaxy A8 (SM-X200, Android 11) tablet can scan packets sent on Primary and Secondary LE Coded. |
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Cat S42 (Android 11) supports the LE Coded PHY, but it can't scan for LE_CODED advertisements. |
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OnePlus 10 Pro 5g has coded PHY support but I have no idea how to use it to find my earbuds. Anyone have some step by step instructions for dummies? |
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Hello, what about smartwatches like Samsung smartwatch 6? how can one check if they support coded phy? |
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Did anyone find a compiled list of devices that supports CODED PHY |
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This forum topic seems to be the only compiled list that exists on the internet. |
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Some info regarding scanning for packets sent on Coded PHY (thanks to Paul C.!): Not working scanning on PHY Coded was reported here: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/227887174
Possibly will work on Android 15, also on current phones after an upgrade. This should be tested when next beta release becomes available. |
Just to be clear, I have tried to find this in the Android 15 API but failed. It might have been already in the API but not connected through to the HW. If anyone would like to check on this it would be great. |
Any news on this ? Has someone been able to test with the Android 15 beta ? |
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This does not appear to have been fixed, at least as of Android 15 build number AP3A.241005.015. |
Hi Sameer, |
Hi Paul, this is based on testing with 2 Android 15 phones. Scanning from device A still only finds 1M PHY advertisements made by device B. Advertisements on 2M + Coded are not found. |
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I think that's hardware dependent. There are phones with older Android versions that can scan Coded PHY as primary one. |
Based on the linked issue tracker, this appears to be a bug introduced in some new-ish version of Android. Is that not the case? |
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I have a pixel 6 running Build number AP41.240925.009. I guess I can check it, but which App is a good question ? |
Would Nordic's nRF connect be up to date enough ? I would guess the API is the same, but the scanning for long range PHYs is connected up underneath correctly - or am I over simplifing things ? |
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If the phone reports LE Coded advertising, nRF Connect will show it on the Scanner tab. |
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The only real way to check it is to try to scan for a device that you know advertises Bluetooth LE Coded. The problem with using nRF Connect is that some phones will report yes for LE Coded, but they can only connect with an LE Coded device, they can't scan for one. So the device would have to advertise using 1M or 2M, but then connect using Coded. |
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Yes. From our experience, all that claim support for LE Coded can advertise with such. Only few can scan when Primary PHY is Coded, which is the main point of this PHY for long range use case. |
Does anyone happen to know if there's a full list somewhere with compatible Coded PHY supported phones?
I tried it on a Pixel 4 which is supposed to support it, and claims it supports it via
isLeCodedPhySupported, but I've been unable to get any advertisements. I even tried using the nrfConnect app, and getting the same result.It works on the Samsung S10+. Can anyone point me to what I can look into to debug this?
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