diff --git a/sarracenia/config.py b/sarracenia/config.py
index 0c61d2743..b86b1cf9e 100755
--- a/sarracenia/config.py
+++ b/sarracenia/config.py
@@ -264,8 +264,6 @@ def __repr__(self) -> str:
         'msg_rename_dmf': [ 'callback', 'accept.renamedmf.RenameDMF'],
         'msg_hour_tree': [ 'callback', 'accept.hourtree.HourTree'],
         'msg_renamer': [ 'callback', 'accept.renamer.Renamer'],
-        'msg_2http': [ 'callback', 'accept.tohttp.ToHttp'],
-        'msg_2local': [ 'callback', 'accept.tolocal.ToLocal'],
         'msg_http_to_https': [ 'callback', 'accept.httptohttps.HttpToHttps'],
         'msg_speedo': [ 'callback', 'accept.speedo.Speedo'],
         'msg_WMO_type_suffix': [ 'callback', 'accept.wmotypesuffix.WmoTypeSuffix'],
diff --git a/sarracenia/flowcb/accept/tohttp.py b/sarracenia/flowcb/accept/tohttp.py
deleted file mode 100755
index d4ef3947f..000000000
--- a/sarracenia/flowcb/accept/tohttp.py
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,49 +0,0 @@
-"""
-Plugin tohttp.py:
-    ToHttp is the converse of ToFile.
-    After processing on a filter, a file URL needs to be turned back into a web url.
-    Uses savedUrl created by ToFile, to convert file url back to original.
-
-Usage:
-    flowcb sarracenia.flowcb.accept.tohttp.ToHttp
-"""
-import logging
-import re
-import urllib
-
-from sarracenia.flowcb import FlowCB
-logger = logging.getLogger(__name__)
-
-
-class ToHttp(FlowCB):
-    def __init__(self, options):
-        super().__init__(options,logger)
-
-        self._ldocroot = None
-        
-        #self.o.add_option('baseDir', 'str')
-        if self.o.baseDir:
-            self._ldocroot = self.o.baseDir
-
-        self.o.add_option('toHttpRoot', 'str')
-        if self.o.toHttpRoot:
-            self._ldocroot = self.o.toHttpRoot
-
-        #self.o.hurlre = re.compile('file:/' + self.o.ldocroot)
-
-    def after_accept(self, worklist):
-        for message in worklist.incoming:
-            logger.info("ToHttp message input: baseUrl=%s, relPath=%s" % (message['baseUrl'], message['relPath']))
-
-            url = urllib.parse.urlparse(message['baseUrl'])
-
-            new_baseUrl = 'http://' + url.netloc
-            if self._ldocroot != None:
-                new_baseUrl += self._ldocroot
-            
-            new_baseUrl += url.path
-
-            message['baseUrl'] = new_baseUrl.replace('///', '//')
-
-            logger.debug("ToHttp config; baseDir=%s, toHttpRoot=%s" % (self.o.baseDir, self.o.toHttpRoot))
-            logger.info("ToHttp message output: baseUrl=%s, relPath=%s" % (message['baseUrl'], message['relPath']))
diff --git a/sarracenia/flowcb/accept/tolocal.py b/sarracenia/flowcb/accept/tolocal.py
deleted file mode 100755
index 7f02f9cb2..000000000
--- a/sarracenia/flowcb/accept/tolocal.py
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,82 +0,0 @@
-"""
-Plugin tolocal.py:
-    This is a helper script to work with filters.
-    What a data pump advertises, it will usually use Web URL, but if one is
-    on a server where the files are available, it is more efficient to access 
-    them as local files, so filters operate on file urls.  
-    
-Example:
-    baseDir /var/www/html
-    url is http://localhost/<date>/<src>/input/file.txt
-
-    flowcb sarracenia.flowcb.accept.tolocal.ToLocal   # converts web URL to file URL
-
-            http://localhost/ --> file://var/www/html/
-            url is now file://var/www/html/<date>/<src>/input/file.txt
-            m.savedurl = http://localhost/
-
-    flowcb sarracenia.flowcb.accept.<some converter that works on local files.>
-
-            A new file is created in another directory.
-            url is now file://var/www/<date>/<src>/output/file.txt
-
-    flowcb sarracenia.flowcb.accept.tohttp.ToHttp     # turns the file URL back into a web one.
-
-            file://var/www/html/ --> http:///localhost/
-            url is now:   http://localhost/<date>/<src>/output/file.txt
-
-
-    The regular expression used to find the web url matches either http or https
-    and just captures upto the first '/'.
-
-    if you need to capture a different kind of url, such as ...
-
-    https://hostname/~user/ ....
-
-    The easiest way is to set toLocalUrl as follows:
-
-    baseDir /home/user/www
-    toLocalUrl (https://hostname/~user/)
-
-    the parentheses around the URL set the value of to be put in m.savedurl that
-    will be restored when the companion plugin msg_2http is called.
-
-Usage: 
-    flowcb sarracenia.flowcb.accept.tolocal.ToLocal
-"""
-import logging
-import re
-from sarracenia.flowcb import FlowCB
-logger = logging.getLogger(__name__)
-
-
-class ToLocal(FlowCB):
-    def __init__(self, options):
-        super().__init__(options,logger)
-
-        self._ldocroot = None
-
-        if self.o.baseDir:
-            self._ldocroot = self.o.baseDir
-
-        self.o.add_option('toLocalRoot', 'str')
-        if self.o.toLocalRoot:
-            self._ldocroot = self.o.toLocalRoot
-
-        self._lurlre = re.compile("(http[s]{0,1}://[^/]+/)")
-
-        self.o.add_option('toLocalUrl', 'str')
-        if self.o.toLocalUrl:
-            self._lurlre = re.compile(self.o.toLocalUrl)
-
-    def after_accept(self, worklist):
-        for message in worklist.incoming:
-            # TODO should all these be logger.error? should we append
-            #  to worklist.rejected or worklist.failed at some point?
-            logger.debug("input: urlstr: %s" % message['urlstr'])
-
-            message['savedurl'] = self._lurlre.match(message['urlstr']).group(1)
-            message['urlstr'] = 'file:/%s' % self._lurlre.sub(self._ldocroot + '/', message['urlstr'])
-
-            logger.debug("doc_root=%s " % (self.o.baseDir))
-            logger.debug("output: savedurl: %s" % (message['savedurl']))