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[FEEDBACK]: Standardize billing tags and provide them as first-class columns #648
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While I love the idea of this, I will add that this one maybe difficult for practitioners as they are likely to have existing Tagging Polices and processes that use different key names than those proposed here. We would need more research on how likely practitioners are to adjust their tagging practices. I guess if the specification supports some "blessed" values, but a practitioner chooses not to use them they can always fall back to using the Tags column. |
@mike-finopsorg Yeah I don't see this causing any issues with backwards compatibility. Their tags would still show up in the |
@jesseadams In your initial post, could you please add at least one use case that adding such columns will unlock? You touched on it a bit: I think your concern is more about the complexity of fetching the data, rather than the presence of the data itself -- is that right? If so, please phrase the use case along those lines. |
@shawnalpay I have edited the initial post. Please let me know if you need anything else. |
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Looks good. Let me know if you need anything else. |
Looks good to me! |
Summary from the Maintainers' call on Nov 25Context: |
Looks good to me! |
I agree with @mike-finopsorg . I do like the idea of FOCUS possibly having some "blessed" values, but I think that the six proposed might be too many. If I were to whittle it down, I'd vote |
One other thing to keep in mind here, and to build on what @mike-finopsorg intimated: a provider would need to implement an upstream structure that allows the practitioner to map their org's various tag keys to these "normalized" tag keys. For example, the org may have tag key As a FinOps vendor, we built a front-end tool that facilitated this mapping. Obviously that's beyond the scope of the specification, but such functionality would be a necessary consideration for a FOCUS data generator. We have no such definitions in the FOCUS spec today to recommend FOCUS dataset configuration, but I believe it would be a prerequisite for this issue, if and when we implement it. |
Summary
Right now there are no tagging standards for to support the Invoicing/Chargeback and Allocation FinOps capabilities. Practitioners define their own standards and must use the
Tags
column of the FOCUS specification. Then you must have an extra step to somehow expand those tags to gain meaningful insights and support chargeback models.Which area does this issue relate to?
A: Missing FinOps feature, use case, or scenario
Detailed Description
A standard FinOps tagging strategy that works across multiple cloud providers typically includes a consistent set of tags that support invoicing, chargeback, and cost allocation. This strategy ensures that you can track and manage cloud costs efficiently across environments like AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud, aligning costs with business units, projects, and other organizational structures.
Here’s a example tagging framework that could be used:
1. Environment (e.g.,
env
orenvironment
)prod
,dev
,test
,qa
2. Cost Center (e.g.,
cost-center
)HR
,Marketing
,Finance
,Engineering
3. Project or Application (e.g.,
project
,application
)project-X
,app-Y
4. Business Unit (e.g.,
bu
orbusiness-unit
)sales
,operations
,customer-service
5. Owner (e.g.,
owner
,responsible-party
)[email protected]
,devops-team
6. Department or Team (e.g.,
department
,team
)development
,security
,IT-support
Example
For a specific VM resource in a multi-cloud environment, a tagging strategy could look like this:
environment
prod
cost-center
HR
project
RecruitmentApp
business-unit
sales
owner
[email protected]
team
HR-Dev
This approach ensures that invoicing, chargeback, and allocation are more straightforward and consistent across any cloud provider.
What use cases, FinOps or others, can't be performed with the existing specification unless this issue is addressed?
While it is certainly possible to perform the Invoicing/Chargeback and Allocation FinOps capabilities with the current version of the specification, I propose we collaborate to define a tagging standard to support these FinOps capabilities. Once defined, they could be top level fields of the FOCUS specification.
There are two things here.
Defining a tagging standard
Coming up with a single, generic standard for billing related tags that can be adopted by everyone. Right now different companies, teams, projects, government agencies, etc. do their own thing. This makes it impossible to add more relevant use cases to https://focus.finops.org/use-cases/ around billing tags and chargeback models. Having these examples available could help accelerate FOCUS adoption.
Query complexity
Right now we have to add complexity and potential additional latency into SQL query execution times. One example is having to use Amazon Athena's data extraction functions
json_extract_scalar
andjson_extract
to get the values we need out of theTags
column. Your forced to use functions such as these that differ across various SQL engines.Docs for reference: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/athena/latest/ug/extracting-data-from-JSON.html
Example Query:
Which FinOps personas does this issue relate to?
FinOps Practitioner, Engineering, Finance
Which provider groups or specific providers does this issue relate to?
This would apply generically to all providers.
On a scale of 1 - 4, how critical is this for your organization?
2: Important for adoption in the next 3-6 months
Objective
The desired outcome would be to not have to do anything special to expand these tags out from the
Tags
column. You could simply use the chargeback/allocation tags immediately on a FOCUS compliant dataset. This will support adoption and make it easier to gain insights in various analytics and AI related tooling that supports a healthy FinOps practice.Data Examples
No response
Issues, PRs, or Other References
No response
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