Draw ring structure at different angle

[tomyan112]

In previous version, ring structure can be drawn at different angle by long press and then rotate.

[deadlyvices]

This is by design in ACME. You have two options if you want to rotate the ring: 1. Drop the ring as it is placed by default. Switch to Select mode. Then double click an atom and use the molecule selector to rotate it 2. Use the variable ring tool to draw the ring: as you move the mouse the placeholder will rotate. Does this meet your requirements?

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-- Clyde

[tomyan112]

This is by design in ACME. You have two options if you want to rotate the ring: 1. Drop the ring as it is placed by default. Switch to Select mode. Then double click an atom and use the molecule selector to rotate it 2. Use the variable ring tool to draw the ring: as you move the mouse the placeholder will rotate. Does this meet your requirements?
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-- Clyde
I see it now. Maybe showing how much angle?

[deadlyvices]

We could do that. It should also be possible to vary the ring angle by-click-dragging as you suggest.

[tomyan112]

This is by design in ACME. You have two options if you want to rotate the ring: 1. Drop the ring as it is placed by default. Switch to Select mode. Then double click an atom and use the molecule selector to rotate it 2. Use the variable ring tool to draw the ring: as you move the mouse the placeholder will rotate. Does this meet your requirements?
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-- Clyde

For 2, it is difficult to know if the ring drawn is horizontally aligned or not because the user can't feel the magnetic snap. I can't find a word to explain it. Sorry for being pedantic.

Left: slightly tilted. Right: Perfect

[deadlyvices]

Don't apologise, we really appreciate your feedback and the time you are giving to this. Unfortunately, odd-membered rings can be very difficult to align properly. We will look at putting the magnetic snap into the variable ring drawing tool

[deadlyvices]

What are your overall impressions of ACME so far? Do you generally like it, apart from the improvements you have suggested?

[tomyan112]

What are your overall impressions of ACME so far? Do you generally like it, apart from the improvements you have suggested?

I like it and the interface is neat and modern.
Also, the wedge and dash is better than previous version.

[MikeWilliams-UK]

You can tell the angle of a bond, it is displayed in the bond property dialogue when you right click on a bond if this helps.

[MikeWilliams-UK]

Link to chemistry stack exchange question, which we should answer once this is implemented.

https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/28997/software-for-viewing-a-structure-and-altering-bond-angles

[MikeWilliams-UK]

@tomyan112 Just finished implementing the ability to change the angle of a bond, here's a sneak preview.

If the bond is a terminal bond only it is rotated.
Otherwise, the whole molecule is rotated.
If the value typed is invalid, the rotation will not be carried out, however other changes will still be applied.

I am hoping to get this released at the weekend (as Beta 5)

[MikeWilliams-UK]

Fixed in Beta 5